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Vulture Premium Horween Derby Watch Straps

Vulture Premium Horween Derby Watch Straps

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just ordered another one. my English tan one is on my speedmaster grey side of the Moon, and looks incredible. i keep getting compliments on it wherever i go. these straps are absolutely top notch quality. I've been using mine almost every day since i got it, on the gsotm, and it's holding up beautifully even in my dirty daily life as a locksmith. i just cleaned it with some zymol cleaner, as it was turning black in several places, and the beautiful reddish brown color came right back, showing the lovely patina that is developing
this time i got a brown nut strap, which will go on my brand new JLC. Polaris Date. I'm excited! so, this is the watch for the new strap

I'm really undecisive between getting the English tan or Brown Nut strap, what do you guys think? Also should I get a plain white threads or the threads that will match the numeral colors?
I need a 20 and a 22, so I was going to get one of each, But now I'm leaning towards two Brown Nut straps.
The only thing is the lighter English Tan may show the pick-up effect more clearly.
I'm not a fan of the white stitching, although with the right watch it would look great.
Some more photos here:
The "Punching Tang Holes" photo is good for color comparison:
Would these straps be considered to be water resistant?
Yes. Derby is heavily impregnated with fats, waxes and oils.
Thanks, Will
Sunlight photos of the colors are down here:
These outdoor photos show straps with a different buckle than used in this drop, a wide-tang buckle with oval holes in the strap.
If you enlarge these photos and hold you watch about a couple of feet away from your eyes to size it and aligned to cover up the watch in the photos, you can get a pretty good simulation of what the strap would look like on that watch.
I appreciate you bringing these to everyone's attention! Thanks, Will
Hi there, what would be a good strap length for a 7 - 7.25inch wrist? Thank you. :)
I would recommend the 125/75mm strap.
Thanks, Will
Thank you Will, I ordered one. :) Looking forward to getting my hands on the strap. I'm sure it'll be great!
Hi! I have a 195mm wrist and i need 21/20 strap for FAC00007W0 orient watch. any advice about lenght?
I would recommend the 130/80mm strap.
Thanks, Will
I have a 7.25 to 7.5 wrist, which size should I get? Would most likely put this on a Speedmaster or Submariner
I would go with the 130/80mm strap.
Thank you, Will
So I already have the Tochigi strap in Havana and love do the Nut Brown and English Tan colors compare to the Havana? Lighter or darker? I would like a different shade of brown and not something too similar to the Havana.
I am glad you love your strap! The Derby is a very different leather than the Tochigi in a few regards. It has much more fats and waxes in it making it more supple. It also exhibits "pull-up" or color change as you flex it. As for the colors, the Brown Nut is significantly darker than the Tochigi, and the English Tan is much lighter. Both colors have more red to them than the Tochigi.
Thank you, Will
Thanks for the info Will. One more question, my wrist measures around 6.75 - 7 inches. My Tochigi strap is 125/75 and I wear it on the 2nd or 3rd hole from the lug end. I do prefer a longer tail, so should I order this strap in the same length? Or one size down?
I need 21mm and 23mm widths. Are these available? Don't want to join the drop if these are not available. Thanks.
I'm with crashjohnson, I need a 21mm....
21/20mm is available in this drop. As for 23mm, It is not included in this drop, but I can accommodate you. please e-mail me at
Thanks, WIll
I have a 6.25 to 6.5 inch wrist which size should I be purchasing?
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Hello there is only the 110/65 option would that fit me for short tail?
I'm sorry, that was a typo. Yes, the 110/65.
Thanks, Will
I want this so bad now so sad I missed this drop
need i say more?
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Which color is this? English Tan - White?
Looks great!!!
yeah, that's exactly what it is. the color is really beautiful. it's a nice, rich, reddish brown. the leather is really suplle, but also very thick, so it's going to be super comfortable and last forever.
I did want to collect a few interesting watches, but this one is perfect for me now, so why bother?
just got mine. beautiful work! the stitching is tight and consistent. thank you!
so much better than da luca.
Love mine. Thamks a million!
thanks auto-correct
Well....I’m late to see this drop. I would actually have picked up 2 Vulture bands but don’t know what lug widths and strap lengths to select. Not sure when the drop actually ends.
It’s not too late. Ends late tomorrow. Some bands have the sizes stamped. Otherwise you can just measure directly.
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Will the English Tan (Tonal) be a good match with the Orient Symphony Gen II Automatic Watch (SER2700GB0 - Black Face) in a formal setting. I always wear tan brown shoes and belts at work. The straps look fantastic but very thick and not too formal? Anybody got photos on how this would look with a black face dress watch (simple - not chronograph or diver).
A couple more questions: 1) can I order 110/70 instead of 110/65? and 2) will the English Tan ever patina closer to a brown or dark brown color?
Not for this drop, I am sorry.
Thanks, Will
Is it possible to order brown stitching (vs. tan) on the Nut Brown strap? Thanks.
Yes, please choose the "tonal" option upon checkout.
Width options?
The width options are in a drop down menu after clicking join drop.
Thanks, Will
Has anyone bought both the Vulture Premium Tochigi and Horween Derby straps? What's the difference between them? Are the Horween Derby straps noticably thicker, or about the same? How do they wear over time? What is the surface texture like?
I have a Tochigi, so I'd like a comparison to that.
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I like them better than "professionally produced" straps. They have a definite feel of real, quality leather, no stamped textures, no painted edges, relatively thick.
(By the way, I hate that I cannot use the word "genuine" in conversations about leather, because it has bee coopted by the "Genuine Leather" grade, which means coarse, deep, cheap leather glued together and pressed and stamped ... i.e., "genuine leather" now means "cheap 'leather'".
I only meant that these look and feel like a pro, someone who actually cares about and works with leather for a living, put these together.
I saw someone else mentioned they wanted a brushed buckle. This looks like it would work:
what do y'all think?
That has a wide tang, requiring racetrack-shaped holes, something Vulture offered in its Tochigi drop, but not in this drop.
Even a replacement buckle with a round tang may not fit: When I changed the buckle on a strap from a District Leather drop, the tang was smaller in diameter than the original buckle's was. It is a tightish fit, but not enough to have to repunch the holes in the band over. But you have to remember that there is no one standard size for buckle tangs.
Do the strap lengths include the length of the buckle or is only the leather include?
Just the strap.

Thanks, Will
is there any way you could add a 21/18mm taper to the drop? my Omega speedmaster grey side of the Moon had an 18mm buckle, and I'd love to use it.
Not for this drop, but I plan on including it in future drops. Thanks for the feedback!
Thanks, Will
I could purchase Horween leather shoes for not much more than these prices.
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There's a lot more work involved with making shoes and they use a lot more leather.
My wrist size is 7.25, what size should I order? Thank you
125/75mm for short tail or 130/80mm for long tail.
Thanks, Will
2 questions:
To taper or not with my Glycine Combat chrono (grey/green)?
Which Brown?
I am leaning toward English Tan/22-20 taper. White stitching. I know next to nothing about watch style, except that my watch is perfect for me.
The taper is barely noticeable. I have a Tochigi 22/20, and I like it. If you want to use your Glycine buckle, go with whatever the original is. I did that with a 24/22 for a black Glycine Incursore.
My problem is I already have five straps on order from his last two drops. Do I order a sixth. Do I even have enough watches to use them all on?
My strap arrived today. It was mostly what I ordered, but there was a major boo-boo done in assembly.
I requested a 21mm lug / 20mm buckle width to accommodate the odd-size of my Hamilton Team Earth. I got a strap of correct size, but an 18mm buckle was squeezed on it. Now I understand that the leather is supple, but that does not mean that a 20mm wide opposite end of the strap is ever going to fit through that buckle.
Now in my parts box, I have a 24mm/20mm taper strap with a close-match style buckle in 20mm, so I transplanted that. Perfect fit. But I still feel as if I am owed a correct 20mm buckle here.
Edit (11/2/2017): Vulture_Premium came-through and sent me a replacement 20mm buckle. Arrived today. Thanks! FYI: Massdrop customer helpdesk contacted me on Monday (after Vulture_Premium reached out to me here) and wanted photos of the problem before they were taking action. Heads-up for anybody who is forced to work that method for some other drop where the maker isn't watching the drop at all. At least they did write back.
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I am quite pleased with the end result on my Hamilton watch. Some pics with the transplanted buckle. Very reminiscent of the old Hirsch Liberty straps from a decade ago.


Horween Derby is full grain, i.e. the top surface of the hide, the skin side. Hirsch Liberty uses "sturdy saddle leather from the back of the skin," which sounds like a way of saying top grain, which, despite the name, is not the top side of split leather, but the layer underneath the top, full-grain layer. So in theory, the materials used by Vulture are higher quality, or at least more expensive, since there may be functional reasons to us top grain over full grain in some applications.
Hirsch lacquers the edges of the Liberty, which is cleaner looking, but if you maintain the edges of the Vulture straps they will be fine and many prefer the more authentic edges.