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WASD Code Zealios Keyboard

WASD Code Zealios Keyboard

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Neat keyboard. Clean and professional-looking.
Looks like it doesn't have a warranty, I'd consider purchasing from elsewhere if that matters to you. Massdrop won't do anything after 30 days
Is there anyone here who has experience with Zealio switches already? If so, do you enjoy 65g, or do you prefer 67g?
I'm wondering whether 65g might be too light, or if, on the other hand, 65g is more comfortable for long typing.
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Yeah. I've been toying with the idea of buying 100g springs and trying those out on my board.
wheeltkl
I used to love Cherry MX Blacks 60cN and clears 65cN. I bought 2 IKBC boards with them. But after a year of playing shooters, my left hand has developed some tendonitis. I've gone back to MX browns and reds. I still use the MX blacks for typing/coding. But playing games, I'm opting for lighter 45cN switches.
I just want to let anyone whos thinking about buying this to consider the original key caps that come with this keyboard are awful are you are going to need a after market key caps. i also found that there was a loud pinging noise when i was first typing on it but after a few days it went away
MYnameisTObin
Had the same thing on mine, except the pinging noise never went away.
Does this keyboard has options for an aftermarket aluminium case?
cavilikon
No, currently there is no aftermark aluminium case but you can get a white case directly from WASD website i believe though
Something important to note for those buying this board, WASD boards in the past have had mounting plates that do not allow you to open switches without first desoldering. If you want to lube these switches you'll have to desolder the board.
We are getting closer and closer ! Sell it with choice of Zealios Switch type (my fav is Zilent 62g), and without keycaps so we can add ours, and its good !
Way too expensive for an ABS plastic case with ABS keycaps. Also, this is just an opinion, but zealios are overrated and overpriced. On top of that, it has white-only backlighting, no programmable firmware, and only 6-key rollover.
What exactly makes this board worth 200$? Save your money and spend it on one of the many boards that cost half the price with better specs and more customization options. WASD has very cool ABS keycap printing options, but that's about it. Not sure why so many people buy their boards.
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You sent me down a rabbit hole and now I'm $350 poorer and two boards richer. I'm also much happier with my keyboard solutions :)
natecook
Yes this was my intention muahaha
What keycaps are everyone putting on this board? I find GMK caps interfere with the costar stabs and certain keys have stiction/can't bottom properly. Gonna put on the dev tty and see how they perform.
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The international shipping is also significantly cheaper on MD, but I think I'd pay the difference to make sure it arrived. I've ordered hundreds of items internationally over the last few years and this was the first one to mysteriously disappear in the post for me..also the first shipped with DHL Ecommerce. (MD refunded, but it's pretty disappointing).
stecman
That's what I have heard, price wise can save you up to 40 or 50 bucks. But yeah, that's a shitty experience, I'm glad you got refunded at least.
so i have been using this keyboard for about a solid day now, and im not sure about other people but i find that mind have a lot of pinging im not sure if just the zealios switches but i want to hear others who have gotten theirs
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MYnameisTObin
I had a WASD Code keyboard with Cherry MX greens which pinged and a few keyboards I built with Zealios switches which pinged.
I found the pinging sound is greatly reduced by lubing the springs in the Zealios switches. Hard to do on keyboards which have presoldered switches as you'll have to desolder every switch to open them. Not something I recommend.
MYnameisTObin
I had a WASD code board in the past and it had such annoying pinging that I had to return it..
Received my board yesterday! Ordered the TKL. Coming from mx reds and greens. Such a sweet switch with a satisfying bump. Can put up a video if ever?
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Oh sorry! Yes I heard some ping around my wasd keys. Its one key specifically.
Asslord
ok, i seen to have noticed it on more of my switches then just one
anyone gotten their shipping notification yet?
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damn it would seem like i have not gotten my update for the keyboard yet
MYnameisTObin
Got my shipping notification a few hours ago. Any luck on yours yet?
i joined the drop but could anyone tell me how zealios switches feel like all i know is that majority of people i have met love them
Is the international shipping charge really $11.11 USD? Normally WASD charges $59 USD to ship to New Zealand, so if this isn't an error, that's a deal in itself.
ABS case and keycaps for $190? I know Zealios are a premium but I got the Tada68 with Zealios and Aluminum case for less than this. Even though TKL has a few more switches, I don't think it warrants this price point.
Supersonic
I think this is more for people who may not know how to solder
Supersonic
im not sure if the normal WASD v2 is different than the ABS case on this one but i've had mine for like 5 years now and its not shining, scratching, or decaying at all
not to mention this has a metal backplate, and no branding or anything
If you don't like the keycaps offered here, you can buy a barebones keyboard directly from WASD. It comes with Zealio 65g switch too. No backlighting though. I have bought it awhile ago with the MOD-M switch. After some tinkering and finding the best keycaps it's one of my favorite keyboards now.
Pushing WASD ABS keycaps with MX clears was like smashing mushrooms. I wonder how long would those keycaps last with a heavier switch.
Also, why would you need an onboard memory to remember DIP switches customization?
Ecne
I have a WASD keyboard with Clears (non-WASD) with stock keycaps that I've used for 2 years. I don't get the smashing mushrooms comparison, and I've never had a keycap break (stock or otherwise) due to a heavy switch. Unless you're physically just smashing your keyboard, most (non pad-printed) keycaps and their legends should last for years.
Also, I think they need onboard memory to remember backlight settings and levels.
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I'm thinking about getting that keyboard too. At the moment I have a Corsair K70 with Cherry MX red switches but I don't really like them for typing/coding (I'm also a developer and spend a bit more time coding than playing too) so I'm going to get the Cherry MX brown switches for my next keyboard. They seem to be a more all round switch.
I'd recommend getting the board featured here, since nothing really comes close to how good Zealios are as a tactile switch. Cherry MX Browns have just a tiny little bump which has never really satisfied anyone at the end of the day. Non-clicky tactile switches have always been this middle ground of wanting a tactile switch without the loudness of MX Blues, and very few have stepped up in creating a better switch. It's why Zealios are still as popular as they are. Other than 'Ergo Clears' there aren't any good alternatives.
This product is intriguing. I'd totally jump on this if I were on the market for a pre-built. This or one of the new Leopolds with the Dolch PBT doubleshots pre-installed.
PSA: I returned a CODE the same day I bought it because you can't use the Fn key and the Menu key at the same time - they share the same physical switch and you have to pick one or the other via DIP switch. Might not be a big deal for many, but I use the Menu key hundreds of times a day and want a keyboard that has separate Fn and Menu keys.
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gak1234
Fair enough. I used to be a heavy user of the menu key, but I don't miss it (I've used a CODE with mx clears for the last 4 years). I predominantly use Linux these days though, and my workflow as a developer doesn't utilise context menus as much as MS Windows used to.
stecman
When I first got into mech keyboards, I bought a new open-box Das Keyboard Prime 13 off eBay for $70, and a WASD Code 104 new from Amazon. Overall, the CODE was slightly better: LEDs were actually white, compared to very bluish ones in the Das, and I instantly liked the Clear switches better than Prime 13's only option of Brown. In the end, I sent the CODE back due to the user-hostile shared Fn/Menu key issue, and modified my Prime to have better LEDs, a custom switch layout, and sound damping: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92640.0
No PBT keys on on 130+ keyboard?! Pfffff
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HYPERDRIVE
PBT is a novice meme.
Amnesia1187
Thank you!
anyone know how Zealios stack up to Halo Clears? I'm rocking the K-Type at the moment but not sure if it would be a big enough difference to buy this
kevinh
I think zealios feel better than stock halo clear. But the halo clear stems can be swapped into other housings (pandas/bsun) and are even more tactile.
kevinh
If you already have a K-Type, you're probably better off just buying switches to swap out if you wanted to try. You can buy sample packs and try for yourself to feel the difference in your keyboard.
For a lot less money, you can get a GMMK and put the same switches in with your choice of keycaps and have more features.
psiclone
GMMK doesn't have nearly the build quality of the CODE though.
psiclone
GMMK is pretty low grade. Cheap plastic base, flimsily thin aluminum plate, questionable build quality. You can't compare it with what's on offer here. GMMK, in my opinion, is a decent functional test bed for trying out different switches.
No 67g option and no PBT keys? I'll pass on this drop.
RF95349
The Zealios in this board are the ones that use Gateron milky bottom housings & they only come in the 65g weighting. The regular clear bottom housing for Zealios is more sensitive to heat & can not hold up to wave soldering. That is the biggest reason you do not see them in off the shelf boards AFAIK. Not sure how the Codes are made but I'd imagine they do use wave soldering as they would never have any boards in stock if they hand soldered each one.
No ISO? Despite Code offering ISO boards? :(
I would have picked one up. Hopefully Code will supply them through their own website eventually.
Raithmir
Seriously, how hard is it to offer ISO boards when they are available from the manufacturer? Massdrop really needs to get their act together on this.
arnijr
Maybe it wasn't mass drop maybe it was WASD.. this is such a limited run for a first time product.. Also maybe WASD not even planning on running a ISO format on these board's who knows.. fact is not everything is massdrop's fault. They take what the manufacture will give them in these cases.
So I’ve only used MX switches so far, I like the Silvers and Clears. Have seen people rave over Zeals, are they really that good? If I get this board will it make me want to abandon my beloved Vibe?
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Gateron would be very similar in smooth vs grit. Zealios are a made with Gateron's tooling. I believe the differences would be clear bottom housing (POM?), custom stem, and custom springs, with a tiny bit of lube. There is still a difference but I certainly cannot make the same grit claim between a Zealio and Gateron. If you have used your Cherry MX boards a ton, they do get smoother but I feel the grit never goes completely away. If you have numerous boards, why not swap switches yourself? Or perhaps trade on r/MM? Hey, I certainly can understand the appeal of another keyboard. (‘-’*)
zjsk
OK, so I'm in. Going to get a set of Samurai to go with it. For the record my Vibe has GMK Yuris. Thanks for all the advice!
Anyone know what kind of stabilizers this has? Is it the quick disconnect kind or the metal bars?
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Victorzaroni
It has Costar stabilizers. The same kind you find at WASDkeyboards.com
jdcarpe
Got it. Thanks my dudes
i have always struggled understanding Zealios.. i know that they are supposed to be smoother, pre lubed and all. And i know there is a key difference in weighting and what the number is referenced bottoming out vs actuation. ok so mx-clears; Tactile force 65 cN Actuation force 55 cN , Peak force ca. 95 cN. (source DT wiki) What's the Tactile force ?? is that the force of the bump ? i always thought that was the Actuation force? btw i have a stock mx-clear board like the tactile feel but find them to heavy that's why i switched to topre for the time being ..don't have soldering hardware. -- 65g Zealios - Smooth, long, drawn out tactile bump in the middle. Nice cushion during bottom out. No further info (source ZealPC groupbuy site).. 67g talks about being even crisper. and to confuse me even more.. 78g Zealios - For those that prefer a slightly lighter MX Clear, but want a similar snappy tactile bump like our 67g Zealios
so for someone that is looking for a lighter mx-clear but likes the tactile bump??? btw i was thinking of ordering a sample pack right from aliexpress but because i read R9 on the ZealPc site i thought getting a sample pack would be useless because of all the revisions ..you never know which revision you are getting.. anyone that can direct me to sum in depth info perhaps a couple of sources would be appreciated..
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The numbers themselves in HaaTa's graphs are less important than the curve of the graph. The best way to use his force curve graphs is comparing the ones you've felt before (like a traditional Brown MX switch) versus another prospective key you are interested in. In this case, Zealios will have a noticeably larger actuation hump.
Of course it's no simple matter, and at the end of the day, feeling it for yourself is the only real way to know, but the graphs make for a good comparison.
Cyphre
i see very useful i understand what you mean.. i'm verry curios about the feel of Zeal..think i'l pass this board and go on aliexpress buy an empty Acrylic tester frame and grab 5 of each weight from zeal site and see what i like.. i figure a row of 5 fingers would give me a better feel / idea then just on key ..that would be useless.. will cost me €40 or something like that..with shipping but well worth it ... if only to finally get an idea