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Mike-from-Philly
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Dec 9, 2016
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I must say, I do not understand this one. This much for a China made FACTORY knife? Really? Same price as a USA made (or Italy, Japan, Germany, Sweden) custom or mid-tech? Look, if this was custom made by a Chinese knife craftsman, it would probably be worth the price, but it is factory made. Again, maybe I am just missing something, but I don't get it.
Dec 9, 2016
anonomous
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Dec 9, 2016
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Mike-from-Phillythis is cheaper than the equivalent of a USA made knife in the same design. you should read up more on knife making. sure it could be even cheaper if it was just blank without all the additional matching and blade design. but I just think your comment means you don't know the industry very well.
Dec 9, 2016
Mike-from-Philly
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Dec 9, 2016
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anonomousNot sure why you feel like you have to insult me to make your point, but no, I am not a knife industry insider or expert, just a long time collector and consumer. Guess the market for this is just those experts in the knife industry? I will stick with my Spyderco's and Kershaw's (many USA made) and leave this one to the knife industry experts such as yourself!
Dec 9, 2016
anonomous
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Mike-from-Phillysorry you feel insulted ... and then we find your motive for posting... that you too are uneducated about the subject and just parade around saying crap about the Chinese knives. I bet you have multiple Spyderco knives manufactured in China yet you don't dislike them? lol these people are really narrow minded.
Dec 9, 2016
Mike-from-Philly
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Dec 9, 2016
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anonomousI assume you work for WE knives and the folks at Massdrop will be interested to find out that you are insulting their members. People who do not have any actual valid points to make have to resort to insults. Yes, I probably have at least 100 knives made in China from every manufacturer and some of them are exceptional, but not a single one cost over $100.
Dec 9, 2016
anonomous
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Mike-from-Phillyreally? everything you said is wrong and uninformed and you have zero knowledge on the subject. please stop. you never intended to purchase this so why even post? because you want to downplay this brand.
Dec 9, 2016
ChrisHarkins
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Dec 9, 2016
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Mike-from-PhillyAssuming that Mr. Anonomous works for WeKnives is a poor assumption. I've had the pleasure of meeting Joe and some of his team and I assure you that none of them are engaged in this conversation. Please refrain from casting aspersions.
Otherwise - carry on.
Dec 9, 2016
Mike-from-Philly
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Dec 9, 2016
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ChrisHarkinsI agree, I though this was a forum to let the folks at Massdrop know what we think about their drops, not for anonomous folks to attack Massdrop's customers.
Dec 9, 2016
ChrisHarkins
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Dec 9, 2016
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Mike-from-PhillyIn my own thoughts to your original post in this string, I'll offer the following:
1) I know of no " USA made (or Italy, Japan, Germany, Sweden) custom or mid-tech" at this price point with the same build quality of WeKnives. I'm interested to know of some comparative examples. The "normal list" of manufacturers does not apply to your assertion (ZT, Spyderco, Benchmade, etc.) We could introduce Hinderer, Brouse, and/or CRK to the discussion but they are generally more expensive for the same level of detail (again, please provide examples of comparative detail, size, and quality)
2) I judge the rest or main point of your statement as a comment on the value proposition, and I also judge that there is an implied lower value from something produced/manufactured in China (relative to something produced or manufactured in the USA, Italy, Japan, Germany, or Sweden - as previously mentioned.) In my opinion, if you strip the country of origin from the description entirely for any knife, and then let the products and their latent quality speak solely for themselves, the WeKnives products compare vary favorably in that sort of a value comparison. Even ignoring a net value proposition based on pragmatic or defined criteria of level of machining and the materials used, in the end the value proposition boils down to whether or not the consumer likes the product.
Dec 9, 2016
Onionman
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Dec 9, 2016
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anonomousWho is this "we" you are speaking for? We knives? I didn't see any parade and I definitely did not see Mike-from-Philly say any "crap" about Chinese knives. He just had a question about why it was priced so high compared to other Chinese made knives. I really hope you don't work for We since this is extremely bad for business.
Dec 9, 2016
ChrisHarkins
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Dec 9, 2016
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OnionmanI'm sure that "anonomous" is a consumer like any one of us. Having corresponded with some people from WeKnives, their writing style reads like it came through Google Translate (which is not a bad thing or a slight of any kind in saying so - they are from China, after all.)
Anyways...
Dec 9, 2016
Mike-from-Philly
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Dec 9, 2016
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OnionmanOnionman has some excellent points. Also, I have a bunch of Chinese made knives that are in some of my favorite EDCs, so anyone who thinks I am bashing should actually ready what I wrote. Again, I consider this a forum for Massdrop customers. If a Massdrop customer (i.e. me) does not see the value in a product, then maybe Massdrop should not feature it. If someone wants We knives I assume they can head to 100's of other places to buy them. I seem to recall some of the Spyderco drops that got 600+ participants. Will this get 600+ participants?
Dec 9, 2016
Sturmgewehr
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Dec 9, 2016
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ChrisHarkinsLol, I seriously doubt any piece of shit from China could possibly beat German manufacturing. German manufacturing quality is at a level of its own. Do not compare US or Japan products. The latter are basically China 2.0.
Wow. 'Made in China.' Maybe even a child labourer was involved in making one! Nothing says 'quality' like Chinese child slave labour. This is like the Industrial Revolution all over again...
Dec 9, 2016
ChrisHarkins
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Dec 9, 2016
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Mike-from-PhillyThere must be some customers that see the value in it as it has already surpassed the (albeit low) thresholds required to continue and be fulfilled.
Will it get the same number of participants as a Spyderco product that cost less to begin with? Heavens no. But that's not really a fair question based on the sizes of the companies, their time in the market and established brand reputation and many other things, is it? Not a good comparison in my opinion. Anyways.
Dec 9, 2016
ChrisHarkins
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SturmgewehrI find it interesting that this knife is a "piece of shit" {because it's} from China.
Dec 9, 2016
Mike-from-Philly
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ChrisHarkinsHey, I do not begrudge anyone who wants this knife, they should buy 100's if they want! What I do not want is to see Massdrop filled with $260 knives.
Dec 9, 2016
Mike-from-Philly
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SturmgewehrThere are very, very few German made knives in the US market, so really not much of an option for most US consumers.
Dec 9, 2016
iceman66
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Dec 9, 2016
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Sturmgewehr#volkswagonturbodiesel
Dec 9, 2016
anonomous
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Dec 10, 2016
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Mike-from-PhillyI rather buy a $200-300 knife than anything cheaper. I like high quality and amazing action. I don't like cheap crap. I have a few usa made spydercos that are great and I like Spyderco for work knives but they are nothing like a good mid tech, which excells everywhere. hell if I could buy full customs I would, but that's beyond expensive. that's the reason why custom makers goto mass production, so they can make real money.
Dec 10, 2016
SeeTOPh
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Dec 10, 2016
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Mike-from-Phillywhat sets this knife apart at this price-point is 2 things: one being the m390 blade, which is arguably an all-around top 3 steel (and unarguably top 7; i give an awkwasrd number just to be safe). Ive got a Microtech LUDT with it and it holds an amazingly sharp edge and sharpens up quite nicely with just my spyderco sharpmaker. But what really makes this a good deal at this price point is that all the hardware is titanium. i agree you can find some great knives out of china for significantly less, but i promise you will not find another knife out there with all titanium handles, clips, hardware, backspacer, pivot cover and ceramic bearings pivot with m390 steel for less than $300....im not going to buy this because i have an aversion to framelocks, as i tend to fidget with my knives and benchmades axis lock or spydercos compression lock allow me to close it while keeping my fingers out of the path of the blade, but thats just a personal preference. I did consider it though as WE Knives are generally 3.5" blades and up (i like 2.75-3.25") yet this one is still in my sweet spot.
Man, i just saw the weight. 3.4oz for a 3.2" blade knife. Thats incredibly low. Thats down near the weight for benchmades osborne 940, which is widely considered the benchmark for length to weight ratio in an EDC knife.
Dec 10, 2016
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