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Nospin
9
Jul 25, 2017
You can buy it cheaper from knife outlet.
seahunter
245
Jul 25, 2017
NospinYeah, this surely isn't a very deep discount on this knife.
djwurm
19
Jul 25, 2017
Nospinwhere on knife outlet do you see the 704? It is not listed when I look.. BladeHQ has them for 253 with free shipping. sou you are saving 3 dollars on this drop? no thanks...
Nospin
9
Jul 25, 2017
djwurmMight be sold out now
JonasHeineman
5987
Jul 25, 2017
seahunterHey @seahunter, always good to hear from you,
I can understand that; expectations of deep discounts are high on Massdrop, and I can't say that I'm not a little proud to have helped earn that reputation :) Our buying team always goes to bat for the best prices to members, and mostly we can achieve that. Sometimes not, and mostly we turn those products/brands down.
You will see every dealer selling WE Knife at 15% off for a very good reason - WE requires it. Same with Spyderco, Benchmade, Chris Reeve, ZT, and others We're able to premier knives here (the black blade version has not reached any other dealers yet, AFAIK), but we're not able to offer them at a lower price.
Many vendors we work with feel, as we do, that MAP does not apply to a site like Massdrop, where login is required, drops only last a few days, and a volume discount is justified. Some don't, and choose not to sell on our platform. Some, like WE Knife, enforce MAP but find other ways to try and add value to the community - like offering almost every new model here first.
For some people, that's exciting and a reason to join the drop. I'm surprised to see this one lagging; every other WE Knife that we've sold has flown off the shelves - I think it's because this is a new variant and not a totally new model, but anyone can let me know if there are other factors.
Anyways, long reply there but just wanted to give some context for the pricing on this.
seahunter
245
Jul 25, 2017
JonasHeinemanHi Jonas,
Thanks for the reply and reasoning behind the pricing for drops. You're right, we usually always save some money, and often can get Massdrop exclusives like special materials (knife blades), etc. We get used to that and then forget that there may be reasons such as discount caps! I am one who thinks the discount rules probably shouldn't apply to a membership site like this, but I totally understand that some companies still will not allow it.
Thanks again for taking the time to offer such a thorough explanation - much appreciated! Keep up the great work!
Do.4life
45
Jul 26, 2017
JonasHeinemanYou are right, on the WE group chat most people are much more excited and willing to purchase when it's a new model. With new variation the interest is much smaller except for the collector that has to have each variation or to someone who does not yet own one. Thank you for a very detailed explanation of how you guys make pricing etc
elnero
52
Jul 26, 2017
JonasHeinemanIn regards to why this drop is lagging I can only speak for myself. While one of these black versions is high on my list of wants, after joining the Falcon and Crux drops funds for knives are tight. If this offered something I wouldn't get or some sort of savings over what I'd pay at a retailer when they're fully released I might be more tempted to try and work something out. That's not to put down the released on Massdrop first model, but there's a lot less incentive involved.
JimmyP
134
Jul 26, 2017
JonasHeinemanIt certainly handy for you to always make MAP pricing the go to response to these questions...considering you only have to order exactly as many items as you will sell, which means no up font costs or sitting on unsold stock, you already have a leg up on every legitimate seller of knives. There are many other ways to add value to the deals so as to fit in with the Massdrop philosophy of a larger community equalling better value....I'm sure something better than early exclusivity could be achieved.
jmunder
143
Jul 28, 2017
elneroThe 704 is on my want list, but I too bought into the Crux & Falcon. That, and the black coated blade isn't really my thing. As with many drops, sadly I'll have to pass for now. Massdrop sure knows how to tempt me, however.