This is a knockoff Benchmade 761/765 Ti Monolock. I get the "improved" manufacturing coming from China, but this compares to prior Chinese products. I'd prefer the company with a proven history and support the one who originally designed it anyways. The lack of copywrite protection and "almost as good" copies drives me nuts these days.
The 761 is the larger version and it's only $50 more for the exact same thing (Retail... can be found at $250). The 765 can be found cheaper than $250. I'm actually a little disappointed that Massdrop didn't put up the Benchmade knives on the drop instead of opting for these Chinese made knives.
Acemedicthis is not true in the least bit. ignore everything this guy says. he's just China bashing without even handling the product. not only is this no where near a benchmade design or construction. the most uninformed post here quite possibly.
don't buy benchmade because they have enormous fit and finish quality issues. Where WE Knives have perfect quality. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1467425-Fit-and-finish/
so many uninformed China bashers. these people know nothing about the knife market.
AcemedicThe WE is NOT a knockoff of a Benchmade or any other knife I'm aware of. You, however, are a remarkable knock off of an internet idiot. Well done, Sir. You copy the look to perfection! Do a little more homework next time and post a little less...
Tim.H
Feb 27, 2017
anonomousBenchmade does not have fit and finish issues... I've never handled a knife from benchmade that had issues and if there was It would be fix or replaced by benchmade. It's the internet don't believe everything you read on forums.
I remember you, and a few others, from the other WE drop. Stop fangirling every post and crying about "china bashing". Jeez It's almost like you're paid to defend their products. If not we get it you like buying expensive chinese knifes. Others, including myself, will rather spend $250 on American made knifes of similar style. Not much can change with a folding knife as far as design go.
Tim.HI have several benchmades with fit and finish issues maybe you should read reviews from amazon, and the other knife stores and hell this link I posted above on blade forums that clearly shows it http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1467425-Fit-and-finish/
maybe you need to do more research instead of blindly saying something you know nothing about.
why don't you stop bashing things you don't know about, its sad. is that your only purpose here? we should have you banned for your false information trolling and clueless ness.
I'll do youtube more and offer you a video...
anonomousKeep it up. Proves nothing to me. All the benchmades I've handled with my own hands tell me another story compared to the few negative reviews.
Tim.HI have a good chunk of Benchmade knives and some DO have fit an finish issues. Go on any BM forum!!! bad blade centering, bad grinds. I had to completely reprofile my 556 from the factory as the bevel was lopsided. So many people who have bought monolock series have issues with centering and the detent. Maybe you need to get a few more benchmades in your hand before you continue talking because you're far from an expert. I am a big fan of benchmade products but their quality control has become poor.
Just got a WE 620D in last week, perfect f&f and FAR superior materials to a similarly priced Benchmade.
baesexright opinions based on what they see, like blade centering, blade grind and various other fit and finish issues like screw heads not manufacturered straight or scales not flush with the braces below them. just so happens you over pay for a benchmade with crap fit and finish.
Tim.H
Feb 27, 2017
SekbBecause I should care what someone posts on BM forum?? I've told it how I've seen it with my own eyes on my own knives and friends. Like I said in my first post If there is a problem Benchmade will fix it.
I'll still gladly pay for American products over foreign made knives and then European over far east. Don't like it? I don't care. But posting like elitists won't change that. I couldn't care what the internet experts have to say.
Tim.Hno one here but you is posting like an elitest. you skull is so thick. I'm not an internet expert as I've own these knifes. you clearly don't understand this and keep trying to find something you are right about to argue, and your just wrong about everything
Tim.H
Feb 27, 2017
anonomousLol Seriously? Have you read your own posts? 101 elitism. Constantly telling others they don't know anything about knives or the industry etc.. It's all BS internet elitism. You're mad I called you out on it.
Now I'm going to still be over here laughing at you for being upset about others making consumer choices about where and what to spend their money on.
Tim.Hare you serious? you clearly don't know what your talking about so I make it clear you don't and you still think you are correct in all your thinking? I provide information, yetbit goes out your head like its empty, cause it is., now you turn it onto me because you can't understand facts.
Tim.H
Feb 28, 2017
anonomousWow. Your "facts" are all based on opinions found on forums and amazon reviews. Yet in your mind you somehow think I don't know what Fit and finish is, my head is "empty", and I should be banned.
You sure showed me... I "clearly" don't know what I'm talking about. Personal experience will always trump internet "facts".
Tim.Hdid I not mention my benchmades also exhibit the same fit and finish issues? clearly it was overlooked as I did already mention it. and I brought supporting evidence in several forms. I don't know what else you want.
your obnoxious replies is why I'm replying in the way I do to you.
Tim.HI'll let your slow brain rest on it so it can comprehend.
Tim.H
Mar 1, 2017
HowAmII'll wait for you to call more people xenophobic retards for not wanting to buy a product. It's strange to comprehend, I know, but I live in a free market one were I can buy what I choose and not buy what I don't want. Get over it. I'm not sure where I "bashed china". Just calling out someone who feels the need to defend this company on every post.
WE has had multiple drops on MD but I don't see one in your drop list? Are you buying this one? I see a HK axis how did you like that?
Tim.HGo read my review and maybe you'll bother to be smart enough to comment. It's obvious you're lacking the knowledge that is need to know you're an idiot.
Tim.HSuspicious to me that he's so adamant to defend but won't buy.
Theres a saying... goes like "put your money where your mouth is." Or something like that.
I'm real suspicious of someone who tells everyone else how good something is but won't get it for themselves.
AcemedicHere's your clone: http://bit.ly/2jgPmEU At this point Chinese made titanium handled knives in this price range are just killing it in terms of the quality you get for the price. This Benchmade design is pretty plain, actually, but at least the real deal has m390 steel. WE Knife is doing something different, though, making original designs, and the quality of their knives is known by collectors. All knives are derivative of other knives. All knife makers contribute to the knife ecosystem and everyone benefits because one can choose from thousands of designs to suit their own taste.
anonomousI don't necessarily agree with all of Nick Shabazz's opinions, nor should I. But I do enjoy his reviews. The thing is, as long as someone isn't buying a clone thinking it's the original, then the original knifemaker isn't losing a sale. It's dishonest sellers that might be impacting the knifemaker's sales. Otherwise what people choose to spend their money on is their business. It's not taking a dime away from anyone.
JKreeseYea well people are selling them as real (both knowingly and un knowingly) hurting alot of people and wallets. It's bad for the community. So u are not part of the community.
anonomousWell actually, I never mentioned what I do buy or don't buy. I never suggested what anyone else should buy or not buy. For the record I think lying and stealing are wrong, so I think we're in agreement there. I can't agree that people who don't intend to buy something are somehow stealing or hurting others by spending their money on anything else because that's just poor logic, no matter how Nick Shabazz feels about it in his entertaining Youtube videos. You're reading way too much into what I did say and it's not really healthy, to tell the truth. Relax...we're all here to spend money on knives...at least I hope so.
The 761 is the larger version and it's only $50 more for the exact same thing (Retail... can be found at $250). The 765 can be found cheaper than $250. I'm actually a little disappointed that Massdrop didn't put up the Benchmade knives on the drop instead of opting for these Chinese made knives.
don't buy benchmade because they have enormous fit and finish quality issues. Where WE Knives have perfect quality. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1467425-Fit-and-finish/
so many uninformed China bashers. these people know nothing about the knife market.
I remember you, and a few others, from the other WE drop. Stop fangirling every post and crying about "china bashing". Jeez It's almost like you're paid to defend their products. If not we get it you like buying expensive chinese knifes. Others, including myself, will rather spend $250 on American made knifes of similar style. Not much can change with a folding knife as far as design go.
maybe you need to do more research instead of blindly saying something you know nothing about.
why don't you stop bashing things you don't know about, its sad. is that your only purpose here? we should have you banned for your false information trolling and clueless ness.
I'll do youtube more and offer you a video...
Okay Mr. Expert...
plenty more... you have opinions, im showing you facts. why are you so dim?
You might be selling but I'm not buying.
Just got a WE 620D in last week, perfect f&f and FAR superior materials to a similarly priced Benchmade.
I'll still gladly pay for American products over foreign made knives and then European over far east. Don't like it? I don't care. But posting like elitists won't change that. I couldn't care what the internet experts have to say.
Now I'm going to still be over here laughing at you for being upset about others making consumer choices about where and what to spend their money on.
You sure showed me... I "clearly" don't know what I'm talking about. Personal experience will always trump internet "facts".
your obnoxious replies is why I'm replying in the way I do to you.
WE has had multiple drops on MD but I don't see one in your drop list? Are you buying this one? I see a HK axis how did you like that?
Theres a saying... goes like "put your money where your mouth is." Or something like that.
I'm real suspicious of someone who tells everyone else how good something is but won't get it for themselves.
U hur dat? We so ignorant.
@HowAmI I'll ask yet again: are you buying this knife or not.
http://knifenews.com/knife-gripes-episode-36-forgery/