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Does anyone know how one sharpens a titanium blade?
Sloper
I would imagine you sharpen it the same way you would a steel knife. It should be even easier given how soft the titanium is.
Morrowind542
Thank you. I don"t suppose the edge would last very long in the long run ie. after repeated use and subsequent sharpening.
I second all the gentlemen below: these knives are crap. And advertisement is misleading - who compares titanium alloy to pure titanium? How about comparing it to cotton balls then? The very best titanium alloys are just too soft for knives, and pure titanium is just super soft.
So, there are a few materials out there that work as this claims to, but this isn't it.
* - you never get pure titanium. Everything you've ever handled is already 6AL4V, which i assume is exactly what this is.
* - You can harden beta-ti to some extent, nitinol, or even dendritic cobalt. This is none of those things.
PigmonkeY
Lots of things are made out of CP titanium. And about a bazillion other Titanium alloys. 6Al4V is common in the knifemaking world, yes. But that's a seriously niche market all things considered.
iwendt
For everything your average person has had hands on, it's been GR5, most likely probably 6AL4V. most other grades of titanium are used in chemical processing, aerospace components and marine equipment, with the exception of GR4 titanium which is probably the only commercially pure titanium you may have had contact with, but only because it's used in things like medical implants.
So, unless you're a chemist, work on jet engines/airframes, or are an engineer on a ship, chances are you've never had contact with most other grades.
Titanium sucks for knives. Don't buy this unless you are just into gimmicky titanium shit. It's not hard enough to make a good blade. If you're into the weight savings of ~20g over a similarlly sized steel knife, I might suggest taking a piss before you start your hike or bringing 20ml less water with you. In exchange for this, you'll get a more durable tool that will last longer than you will and will take far less work to maintain.
Possible exceptions: * You really like shooting fire at titanium and making it turn pretty colors * You're a saltwater diver and want something that will not corrode. Even in this case, there are highly corrosion resistant steels (H1 is a good one that is used in a lot of spyderco knives). I would still recommend a steel knife. Maybe one with a larger handle. This might be too small to easily use underwater in an emergency.
PSA: The blade is titanium. Titanium is not a great material for use as a blade. Ergo, this is primarily a novelty item.
HRC=50 - is it a joke or misprint? Too low. An average steak knife has at least HRC=55!
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HRC applies just fine. If they listed the Rockwell B hardness, most people would be even more confused since other knives all have their hardness listed as Rockwell C. That being said, I highly question that this is even 50 Rockwell C. Beta-C titanium which is one of only a few truly hardenable Ti alloys can't even reach that high on the scale and usually tops out at about 46.
iwendt
Agreed. My problem with C-scale is that HRC50 measured on Titanium is not the same as HRC50 measured on steel. Steel would be noticeably more resilient in that case. And I also read about Ti alloys reaching 43-46 HRC at best.
Save your money, I have 2 and the construction is very poor
The Spyderco Ladybug 3 Salt is lighter at 0.6 oz and made from H-1 steel that is supposedly 100% rust proof and holds a sharp cutting edge.
I need a pocket clip on my knives, so I’m out on this one.
They had my attention until I saw it was only hardened to Rockwell C 50. I didn't know they even made a knife that soft. You would spend all your time sharpening it. I will stick with my 1.8 oz Leatherman Micra keychain multi tool.
Rory_Dudley
They don't make steel knives that soft; this is the limitation of working with titanium. Titanium is strong, but not hard. Certainly not hard enough to make a good blade.
JonasO
Pretty sure I've had some steel that soft... Think they were stamped as "Pakistan Steel" lol
But, seriously, this is ridiculously gimmicky. There's no need for a titanium blade that can't hold an edge, I don't care if you are one of these 'ultralight' fanatics... That's a dumb place to try to save yourself an ounce
The folder is seriously lacking in quality. I got mine and the liner lock catches and isn't smooth. Plus the blade is too short for the handle, it disappears into the handle and is difficult to open.
So thinking about this more... it would be really nice to get a knife simply made of one of the new super stainless steels instead of titanium. They’re a LOT harder and at these sizes not much different on weight.
LC 200 N (most Desirably) H1 bd1n (probably)
Its actually sort of hard to find a reasonably priced normal everyday knife in these materials so that would be a nice drop...
I run in the morning with a similar titanium knife in a neck sheath on a piece of paracord around my neck. It is so light that it won't flop around at all when running, and it is totally immune to sweat or rain. If a dog or coyote approaches I can grab it with either hand quickly. I don't have to unfold it or reach for a sheath. It is well worth the price if you run or wade fish or something like that...
I got the fixed blade one. I was worried about the corrosion resistance of the clip on the knife and rivets of the sheath. I've had the them soaking in salt water for about 3 weeks occasionally taking them out to let them dry. Everything looks good.
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I assume this is mostly for pairing with everyones titanium sporks? I don't really understand the niche this fills. You can get a decent knife that only weighs a few ounces more for around this price.
Someone explain this to my simple self. I am genuinely interested, not trying to be negative about the product.
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Heh, is it even sharpened? Looks like a glorified butter knife.
namhod
Not sure, honestly but I'm pretty sure it's better than a butter knife. This one is beta ti and it works great!
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Does anyone have experience sharpening this knife? I know that since it's titanium it won't hold an edge for long but that doesn't bother me too much if it can take a good edge when I go to sharpen it... unfortunately I have heard people say that titanium can't get much sharper than a door wedge but I don't have any other source to validate that information.
Aubreal
That's not the case. While it won't hold the edge for very long, nowhere near as long as a half-decent steel blade will, it can be easily sharpened to a shaving edge. Source: I'm a knifemaker that's been making titanium knives for over a decade.
iwendt
thanks for the info!
Hm. I don't know why they make these given the general softness of titanium. However I just thought of a use for it (if they weren't sorta pricey)
I sharpen my various knives (mostly kitchen) on a guided whetstone system. one thing I sometimes do is mask off most of the knife with blue tape before sharpening the edge in order to avoid scratches. I'd like to be able to trim the tape by cutting it with an exacto but that would itself scratch the knives.
I was thinking of making myself a brass or copper knife to trim with. But a titanium blade at this sort of hardness might actually be perfect. I think this one is a bit too expensive for my purposes though.
I purchased the folder version last time it was on here. It didnt come super sharp and I dont feel comfortable sharpening it. It is very light though. In terms of quality, it's meh imo. The liner lock is somewhat hard to work with, the knife isnt very smooth opening/closing. It's become more of a novelty knife for me, wouldnt really use it in everyday type of situations. For the price, if you are wanting a knife that you can actually use then I would keep looking.
While the knife blade is not pure titanium, at a Rockwell hardness of C 50, it's very soft and won't hold an edge for long. See the following link for more info: http://quantumchymist.blogspot.com/2014/02/why-arent-more-blades-made-of-titanium.html
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"The next time you take to the woods, do you want to lug around a big ol’ bowie knife or pocket a sleek blade that has all the edge you need and only weighs an ounce?"
If I really want to get shit done, I'll go with my SOG Bowie knife any day of the weak. Easier to handle, multi functional, and won't need nearly as much sharpening.
I use this knife to prepare and eat food while I'm out in the woods. The knife and the spork clip to my mess kit. Works great for what I use it for but I wouldn't try to baton a log with this thing. This is a backup knife at best...for me it was just interesting being fully Ti. I use it because I already have it not because I need it. It allows me to pack a dedicated food knife with basically no added weight or taken space.
ABH313
Thanks for the beta; I was considering as a UL option but I use my knife in my essentials kit, so it needs to be able to shave tinder, cut clothing and cord etc if I have an unexpectedly longer journey. Think it would do alright for that ? Too bad it doesn't have a cuban sheath ... all those unnecessary grams /s
payday is in like two hours. im making the commitment for 39.99 today. unless payday isn't til tomorrow. then tomorrow.
Looks interesting.
Also, there are some titanium knives that are "carbidized." This means a layer of tungsten carbide is laid down along one or both sides of the edge. Tungsten carbide being harder than any conventional steel, it turns the titanium into a slicing monster. When done along one side of the edge, it actually becomes self-sharpening when cutting abrasive (and normally edge-destroying) materials like cardboard - as the titanium wears away, fresh carbide is exposed. The hard/brittle carbide combined with the soft/tough titanium produces a great light-use slicer - you won't go shopping any logs with it, but you can expect it to last indefinitely through light tasks.
I'm working on a DIY solution to carbidize this knife (assuming the drop still happens.) If not, there are a few knifemakers out there who produce carbidized Ti knives. Daniel Fairly is the first that comes to mind. We might be able to find one who can produce in volume, or maybe even get these modified en masse in a special drop.
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kennyj
Actually, really want to like this knife... Love that it's ti, especially the single bevel. Would make sharpening a BREEZE...
But the clip looks like it's in a spot that would just get in the way and be uncomfortable while sitting in the hand... So, sorry but I'll pass guess.
kennyj
They just had a Ti knife that had a carbide edge a week ago.
Looks like it won't hit the price floor at this rate.
Omnias
Yeah, I'm trying to spread it a bit on Facebook, but it just isn't resonating right now.
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I'm down! I'd like a sexy knife I can carry on my person for non-murderous reasons.