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Zerogram ZERO 1 Pathfinder Tent

Zerogram ZERO 1 Pathfinder Tent

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i think youd have to be nuts to pick this over Dan Durstans x-mid.
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I think it mostly depends on what you're after, the Zero 1 is a few ounces lighter and a bit cheaper, but far less functional IMO. For example, in the rain the Zero1 would be challenging to use because it is a single wall design, has doors that let the rain fall in, quite a bit less spacious, uses nylon that sags in the rain, has vents blocked by mesh etc. So likely a soggy experience.
But for someone who mostly camps in friendly conditions and is on a budget this could be a good choice. For about 4oz more the X-Mid offers a lot more functionality (more space, dual doors, dual vestibules, simpler pitch, no sag fabric, functional vents, doors that don't let the rain fall in, no poles in the way of the doors) but the important thing is for each buyer to understand what there usage will be so they get that functionality and not more or less. Certain use cases would be suited to the Zero1.
dandurston
I agree- it seems to be a great tent, looks nice as well, but the turnaround time is something that can't be forgotten. Then you have weight (+) and price (+). I don't think there is anything overly wrong with this drop here. Inferring MD and anyone who would purchase this tent to be nuts though seems a little foolish, but that's just me. I am very interested in your future 2/2+ version of the x-mid, btw. PNW hiker here and I am still on the fence with my current choices minus "The Two."
FYI guys for those who don't have trekking poles I DIY'd a set. bought a pack of spare fiberglass poles and cut them down https://www.anacondastores.com/camping-hiking/tents/tent-accessories/oztrail-tent-pole-kit/p/90000786005 i used these and cut one 115cm pole (2 poles) and the other one to 60cm as per the specs on the zero gram site. after using it on a bike tour, i might re-cut (and use the last pole in the pack) to have a 65cm pole (in 2 segments) and a 117cm pole in 3 segments. the extra height is needed for better adjustment and the larger number of segments make it more compact to fit on the top tube of my bike. Also available are 9.5mm spare poles. they should work and reduce the overall weight of the tent, but i like the sturdiness of the thicker ones. oneday... i might order some custom carbons
Lizanne
Extremely helpful, thank you so much for this!!
Not a huge fan of tents that aren't free standing.
Eatmydust
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An important question to anyone who owns either version of this tent: Does it hold up to SOME rain? How does it do in a light or typical rain as opposed to a heavy downpour for a night or half a night? I think this would help a lot of people out who are on the fence. Thanks in advance!
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Thanks for your reply! It sounds like you like the tent overall?
Cody86
love it. i used to have a freestanding marmot pulsar (2 man) , and i find this tent very roomy, super light, and compact to pack. it also takes seconds to put up. i can get to camp, put water on the boil, set tent up, make tea or wake up, put water on to boil, pack tent, have coffee/breakfast then roll out
Fossil
Thanks for posting the link, though keep in mind that review was for the first edition of this tent, and Zerogram has made some changes that have addressed Philip's concerns with this Pathfinder edition.
DannyMilks
Can you detail those changes. That would be helpful. Thanks.
Does this come with a footprint?
J05hua
The footprint was not available at this time. We will try to include it as an optional add-on in the future.
Does it come with a footprint? Is there one available?
How does this tent vent and remain “ bug free”? I don’t see and mesh over the openings. In the absence of mesh venting this thing is going to be a puddle....
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Yes! I've used a 70L pack and it fits snug with boots. As for room inside, purely depends on your height. I am 6'3" and there is no room for anything other than myself. But average height person might have room for their pack if used as a pillow.
McCaskill
Thanks again. TC
Does this require seam sealing? God I hate doing that.
frekin
I would recommend it although it's not super rain resistant in my testing with the first version. Light and medium rain you should be fine overnight. But a constant downpour will soak through. I've used mine on weekend trips in the winter in California and it did well with our light rains.
Anyone have any idea how this tents stacks up versus the Ultralight silnylon 1 person tent at the link below? I just haven't heard enough reviews. Both intrigue me https://shop.twinfallsgear.com/products/1-person-3-season-ultralight-silnylon-backpacking-tent
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ibex-doc
This one looks like it would perform better with condensation. The zerogram tent has a rear vent, a front door, and side door for ventilation. Even with both doors vented, I still had too much condensation.
ibex-doc
The tent in your link is a 3F UL tent you can see the water mark. 3F UL is a Chinese co. That sells on aliexpress, you can goggle it. That tent probably sells for $70.00 with free shipping. It gets decent reviews. I have the 2 man version and it's a great light backpacking tent. Hope that helps. Condensation problems will be the same in all silnylon tents, it's all about ventilation.
I used this tent for 2 nights in Monangahela National Forest in WV. I wanted to like it, but the condensation build up was too much. This is probably not much of an issue in drier climates though.
These tents (that you cannot see out of when zipped up) can make me claustrophobic. just sayin. YMMV.
How does this tent handle rain and soaking rain at that. Down here in Florida we get soaking rains but normally they don't last too long.
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There's no rain fly, it's a single wall tent. But, I would waterproof it for sure, which will add some weight...
Agree with you on this. You will need to weatherproof this tent. Out of the box it isn't great for wet climates. You have to think of this as like a tarp tent more than a regular tent. You will be much more exposed to grumpy weather so you will need to prep the tent beforehand. Tape and waterproof sprays.
It states 6 stakes included, but the limited photos make it appear it needs 6? Three along each side, one at the rear, and one at the front? Additional photos, or even un-cutout photos, would be appreciated.
Rinyre
I just looked up a video on YouTube. One stake in each of the four corners and then one on each end to stake out the vestibule and hold up the trekking poles.
Target 39.99
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That's twice the weight bro
that's a ridiculous comparison. Your link has a 28 inch head height, compared to 45 inches for this zerogram offering, twice the weight, single wall vs double wall.... sheesh, i won't even continue. Simple trolling.
Hello =) Will you be doing the Anti Bug UL 3D anytime soon? I've been itching for that for a couple months. https://zerogramgear.com/product/anti-bug-ul-3d/
Mikaele
Hey Mikaele! It should be coming up again within the next few months. Hit the request button and we’ll notify you as soon as it becomes available! https://www.massdrop.com/buy/zerogram-tarp-and-bugnet
Mikaele
I know it's been a while since you posted, but I did get the AntiBugUL3D. Really like the way they did the doors in it. Makes a huge difference to have the side pullouts used when it is set up.
As an alternative you might check out Paria Outdoor Products. There are aspects of their net tent that I really like. Especially the way they handled the corners. About the same price as the nettent on here as I remember. I did get a tarp through them, 10x12 as the cover for the net tent. I'm going to do a slight mod to the inner sides of the tarp to add a place to allow the side pullouts from the net tent to attach to loops.
Review at Section Hiker. Not sure about the less than taught sides review. http://sectionhiker.com/zerogram-zero-1-tent-review/
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The taught pitch was a big issue I had with the first version. Looks like they put eyelets on the sides to help with that. The original has a vestibule so I don't understand how that was addressed. Most people were worried about the angle the vetibule sat at in which it would allow rain to come inside the tent. looks like they of centered the mesh lining about 3 inches to allow for slight cover for this. It's great that they put customer feedback into the newer version but the price increase necessary? I enjoyed the fact the original version was cheap and affordable for almost anyone. I'd be interested how this pans out against the original version. I would like to do a side by side comparison but don't feel like dumping 180 dollars just to make a youtube video about this, haha!
McCaskill
Thanks for the post, and comparison to the original one. It looks like the price only went up $10 - doesn't seem like that big of an increase. But I agree that it is nice to have some affordable solo shelter options, and this is one of them. Bigger than a bivy, not quite a tent, and well under $200.
The description says "trekking poles required," but how long do the poles need to be to work? Available trekking poles come in a wide range of sizes and possibilities for length adjustment.
satanas
It lists the height front and rear, those would be the heights you set your trekking poles at. If you don't carry adjustable trekking poles (I dont) then buy aluminum or carbon poles for 15 bucks from tent pole technologies. My carbon poles of similar heights weigh around 2.5 ounces. Cheers, Grant
satanas
It’s in the descriptio... see height bulletpoint.
Would someone 6' 5" fit in this comfortably?
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Auxier
I'm 6'4" (76" tall) I usually use the following length calculation. Height plus 6" at bottom for sleeping bag foot plus 3" at top for sleeping bag hood. Tent is @85" long, my calculation of needed height is 85". So this tent would probably have both the head and foot of my bag touching the interior ends of the tent. Hope this helps! (P.S. The same calculation usually works fairly well for quilt sleepers.)
Auxier
I have the first version of this tent and I am 6'3" and barely fit. I wouldn't recommend over 6'4".