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Nov 10, 2017

Anyone have any idea how this tents stacks up versus the Ultralight silnylon 1 person tent at the link below? I just haven't heard enough reviews. Both intrigue me https://shop.twinfallsgear.com/products/1-person-3-season-ultralight-silnylon-backpacking-tent

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Eric.n.whalen

Nov 10, 2017

ibex-docWow, this design is getting popular...
I can't speak directly to either tent, but I own a Big Sky Wisp - which features a nearly identical design to both of the ones you're referring to. All I can say is that I love my tent. People have posted concerns about condensation, but I've found it very manageable - especially if you orient the vents properly (at least as the venting is designed on mine). fwiw...

DannyMilks

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Nov 10, 2017

ibex-docNot trying to derail the topic, as I hope others can discuss the differences in the design of the shelters. However, I want to make it clear that the link you posted for Twin Falls Gear is a 100% rip-off of the Big Sky Wisp. That tent was completely copied and is widely available on alibaba and some other sites. Most surprisingly is that Kuiu, supposedly this amazing hunting company, also sells the ripoff version. They've been contacted by Big Sky to stop selling it but have refused. Just wanted to share this so everyone can make an informed decision on their gear purchases.

DannyMilks

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Nov 10, 2017

Eric.n.whalenThe design got popular because it was ripped off from Big Sky and now there are ton of copycat versions out there. See my note above.

ibex-doc

Nov 10, 2017

DannyMilksI was not aware of that, thank you for pointing that out, it does not derail from the discussion and I think very valid to bring up. I will check out Big Sky reviews.

Eric.n.whalen

Nov 10, 2017

DannyMilksYes, and sadly this may not be surprising. I also purchased my Wisp from Massdrop long ago, and it's interesting to note they are now selling knock-offs where they have sold the original in the past.
Sometimes I feel like IP should be protected, and other times I don't. I wish Big Sky the best, although I'm not sure what sorts of IP protection designers can use to protect their designs from exactly this - and what Big Sky did or didn't do. Regardless, I appreciate your note, and I think alerting shoppers to this could only be helpful. I'll let others do their own research as I already have my tent! Happy trails.

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doncab

Nov 10, 2017

ibex-docThis one looks like it would perform better with condensation. The zerogram tent has a rear vent, a front door, and side door for ventilation. Even with both doors vented, I still had too much condensation.

Fbnc

Nov 13, 2017

ibex-docThe tent in your link is a 3F UL tent you can see the water mark. 3F UL is a Chinese co. That sells on aliexpress, you can goggle it. That tent probably sells for $70.00 with free shipping. It gets decent reviews. I have the 2 man version and it's a great light backpacking tent. Hope that helps. Condensation problems will be the same in all silnylon tents, it's all about ventilation.

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