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Usefuldiot
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Jan 27, 2016
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Wow this just looks terrible. 360 degrees of tent wall to sleeping bag touching... any amount of condensation is going to wet out your bag. For the weight and the price get a tarp people you'll end having more space and drier.
Neist
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Jan 27, 2016
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UsefuldiotYou know, the front of the tent is close to the same width and height of a Protrail, and people certainly do okay with those. In fact, a lot of people love those. A Protrail is 42x84x45 (rectangle shaped). A Zero1 is 43.3x82.7x43.3 at front and the cat cut shrinks it down to 23.6 wide and 25.6 tall at the foot. The only dimension that might be problematic is the width at the foot, but my sleeping bag certainly isn't two feet wide. Really, it's probably fine for most circumstances, and the cat cut is necessary to cut the extra 4 ounces.
As per your tarp comment, let's think about it. Let's compare what a fully-enclosed tarp setup equal to this tent's cost would weigh.
8x10 Sil Tarp - ~12oz (~$100) 6-8 Stakes - ~2-3oz (~$20) S2S Nano Bug Netting ~3oz (~$50)
I choose to compare a S2S Nano net because it's probably the cheapest and lightest option you could go with. A less finicky option would be a bivy, but it would also cost a chunk more. I also didn't include the weight of line, but if you went super light, it would add less than an ounce, so, for the sake of argument, I did not include it.
Both the Zero1 from this drop and the tarp setup would cost close to the same amount, and the tarp setup would in fact weight around 4-5oz less, but it's going to be far more finicky to setup. Personally, I prefer the simplicity of an all-in-one solution. The less items I carry, the better. Perhaps you'd prefer a tarp setup, but that doesn't mean anyone who prefers one is invalid.
If for no other reason, one of the major wilderness areas I live close to has a rather high population of rattlesnakes. I'd rather not wake up with one snuggling me. And I doubt I'm alone. A lot of people prefer fully-enclosed shelters for a lot of reasons.
As per your tarp comment, let's think about it. Let's compare what a fully-enclosed tarp setup equal to this tent's cost would weigh.
8x10 Sil Tarp - ~12oz (~$100) 6-8 Stakes - ~2-3oz (~$20) S2S Nano Bug Netting ~3oz (~$50)
I choose to compare a S2S Nano net because it's probably the cheapest and lightest option you could go with. A less finicky option would be a bivy, but it would also cost a chunk more. I also didn't include the weight of line, but if you went super light, it would add less than an ounce, so, for the sake of argument, I did not include it.
Both the Zero1 from this drop and the tarp setup would cost close to the same amount, and the tarp setup would in fact weight around 4-5oz less, but it's going to be far more finicky to setup. Personally, I prefer the simplicity of an all-in-one solution. The less items I carry, the better. Perhaps you'd prefer a tarp setup, but that doesn't mean anyone who prefers one is invalid.
If for no other reason, one of the major wilderness areas I live close to has a rather high population of rattlesnakes. I'd rather not wake up with one snuggling me. And I doubt I'm alone. A lot of people prefer fully-enclosed shelters for a lot of reasons.
Neist
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Jan 27, 2016
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UsefuldiotActually, I forgot a groundsheet with a tarp setup, if you wanted to use one. Tyvek would probably be 2-3oz and Polycryo would weigh about 1.5.
Would you need a groundsheet? No, but a lot of people like them.
Would you need a groundsheet? No, but a lot of people like them.
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