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Zhen Vegetable Knives

Zhen Vegetable Knives

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A bit more on amazon, but free shipping and returns. Massdrop isn’t as flexible
I own the 101-layer damascus nakiri, which is available in this drop, but the specs don't provide any details. For the record, that nakiri has a 1.1425 German steel core. (It's printed on the left side of the blade.) That steel is very similar to 440C. Zhen claim a hardness of 62 HRC, which is unusually high for that steel (but achievable with careful tempering). The knife is very sharp out of the box, no issues. Fit and finishing are OK, but not great. The rivets stick out just a fraction above the surface of the wood, as do the bolsters; you can just feel a slight step up from the wood to the metal. The knife has a full tang, and the wood for the handle is attached to it in two halves. There are small gaps on my knife where the wood meets the bolster (on one side only), Because of the full-tang construction, and because the blade is not all that thin (2.4 mm near the bolster, 2.2 mm near the tip), the knife is heavy for a Japanese-style nakiri: exactly 250 g. For comparison, another nakiri that I own, a Sakai Takayuki 165 mm with AUS-10 hammered damascus blade and rosewood Wa handle, weighs 146 g and can be bought for the same price. If you don't mind a heavy knife, and if your are not anal about minor fit and finishing flaws, the damascus nakiri is good value. But be prepared to use your muscles when using it. I definitely wouldn't recommend it for extended prep sessions.
So I went to order one and the shipping is $3.50 then I went to add another to my order and shipping went up to $7.75 for two. That seems weird and wrong. If anything it should be $7 and most places would give you a discount on shipping for a multiple knife order to encourage more sales. So I'm getting just one knife and if I decide to get another I'll put in a separate order to save on shipping.
Gunnersmate2
That's funny, if I order one the shipping is $8.25 (to Australia) but if I add another order it only rises by $3.50. As I keep adding orders the shipping goes up either $3.50 or $3.75 for each order.
I assume you're in the US? The good news is that if you add a third order the shipping doesn't increase at all, and a fourth only increases it by $1. Keep adding orders and it increases by between $0 and $1 each time. So it's just that 2nd order that triggers a big jump in the shipping price.
Of course that doesn't help you much if you only wanted 2 knives :)
Jaggi
Right. I did want two but decided to just get one. And I am in the US. Wish I was in Australia. I visited Perth and Adelaide in 1997 and in 1999 , the people were awesome and the country is beautiful.
As someone who cooks with a lot of vegetables, I am wondering what you guys think about the Veggie knife versus the Nakiri. All I've got in my kitchen right now is a Santoku, a Chef's Knife, a pairing knife, and a bread knife. I pretty much use the Santoku and pairing knife for everything right now, but it'd be great to make chopping veggies a bit easier. Thanks.
jmacdonald
I'm no chef, but I'd say the difference would be down to the weight. The Veggie knife would be heavier so better for chopping (veggies). You can also use more of a rocking motion with your cuts. The Nakiri would be better for slicing and probably pretty close to using your Santoku. As an aside, the scalloped out hollows on the Nakiri don't really help keep food from sticking as much as you'd hope.
bookworm13
Thanks for the advice! I agree about those scalloped hollows, my santoku has them and they don't seem to prevent much.
Despite the following:
“Note: The base price is for the 7" Veggie - VG-10 3-Layer Forged - Pakkawood Handle.”
...That version isn’t available. The Damascus is nice, but with shipping & duties, not that competitive.
Add international shipping next time, what's gotten into you massdrop?
One day when I can afford kitchen knives, I'll be buying as a whole set not individual knives. These individual kitchen knife drops are confusing. What am I supposed to do throw it in a drawer? Needs to be a set with block. Pretty though.
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Most preconfigured sets have, as noted, numerous pieces you don't really want.
And find a brand that works for you, then assemble your own set from that brand and line. They all match. Makes WAY more sense than buying a set, unless that set's got exactly what you want anyway.
darkpanacea
https://lifehacker.com/dont-buy-expensive-knife-sets-these-four-knives-are-al-1698973316 Knife sets are garbage. You can buy a beautiful block or even a new magnetic block separately then buy 4 good knives for the price you will end up paying for 8 crappy knives and 6 unneeded steak knives. Not to mention the sharpening rod and shears sold with most blocks are worse then buying a random pair from Walmart. A good thing to keep in mind is that even companies that sell decent knives (like Wüsthof) will sell a sub-standard version as a knife block set. When you look at the price of their top line individual knives and add them up you can see why they do it. Bottom line if it is for looks and you dont really cook just grab a $30 knife block set from amazon and let it set on your counter. On the other hand If you hold a knife more than an hour a day you will really regret not tailoring the set to you.
To get demascus or 3 layer vegetable knife?
The Damascus 7" veggie is listed as having a TPR handle, but the picture looks like wood. Anybody know what the handle is for sure?
spindragon
I don't know, but it's sold out, as well as the 101-layer Damascus, and the " 6.5" Nakiri - VG-10 3-Layer Forged- Brown Pakkawood Handle (+ $2) " is not even listed.
spindragon
It's Brown color Pakkawood handle, model# A6P. 3 Layers forged, Model# A4T is with black TPR handle.
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That cleaver looks outstanding, anyone have one? How would it pan out as part of a small set of kitchen knives, with a 7-7.5" santoku and a 4-5" Euro-style broad utility knife? I don't know the name of that style, basically a conventional looking chef's knife but only a little longer than a large paring knife.
Just received the vegetable knife. OMG, this knife designer absolutely nailed it. This slices through vegetables like a butter knife through butter. It is probably going to replace most of my knives now. It is just too easy to use. It does encourage and almost guide your hand into a rocking motion. If you insist on being a straight Chopper, this is not the knife for you. Otherwise it is the knife from heaven.
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which one do you have the regular or Demascus one?
Mraysberg
Regular
Any specs on the thickness or weight of the blades?
Is the 6.5” nakiri with 3 layers available? I don’t see it listed as an option in the drop down.
TBedeezy
Same here, the 3-Layer Nakiri doesn't seem to be available for this drop.
Jaggi
Glad it wasn't me not seeing things. Hoping they'll offer it again. Wanted to buy it for my sister.
So did anyone buy the 7" curved one? How is it?
Tenryuu
See my separate post. It is utterly amazing
Just the 101 layer nakiri today. I don't think I'll actually be able to use it. It just looks so good! The metal, the wood, the centre pin of the handle. Just gorgeous! It does feel good in the hand though so maybe...
I am not familiar with these knives at all, but I am confused, because I don't see what all the options are. I am just seeing 3 choices of knives, not all sorts of options... what am I missing, please?
brenda52411
There are four different blade geometries offered, I believe, in this drop. Some of the blade styles are offered in different steel(maybe method of steel processing would be more accurate) and handle material. The less expensive knives have a VG-10 steel core sandwiched between a different steel(cladding). The more expensive knives have several layers of two different steels that were repeatedly folded, but the core steel, that forms your cutting edge, is still VG-10. VG-10 is good quality steel for Asian style kitchen knives. It often performs better when paired with another steel by cladding or folding/pattern welded, often referred to as Damascus.
DSpeed
I guess I missed the drop. If it's offered again (I have requested it) the knife over on the left is a nice looking knife. What would I purchase to get the best quality version of that knife over on the left? Thank you. Sorry I don't know much about knives.
man that damascus nakiri with the black handle is beautiful...
Why are shipping limited to so few countries? There is so much stuff i want on massdrop but its so rare to see them ship to me (denmark)
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Yeah dude
wincore
Customs in many countries will seizen certain items or charge a ridiculous tariff or import duty tax. I’d far rather a company not ship an item than me paying for it and never receiving it or getting hit with exorbitant, unexpected, fees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX8pF308w3s "I like a funky looking knife." :D me too nice lady, me too. Video seems a bit choppy but she gives you a good look at the blade.
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According to the name of the channel, she is learning. :) Looks like sometimes her husband steps in and does some cooking too. Neat chan so far.
Haha that lady is so "funky," I like funky ladies