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Zojirushi Bread Maker

Zojirushi Bread Maker

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A bread maker sounds like a cheap way to make the real thing—until you try one out. This model from Zojirushi takes the hard work out of making bread, but still produces delicious results you could never get in a package Read More

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megalonzerg
90
Jul 8, 2019
I have an old bread maker and I love it. The best feature of this one is the "gluten free" setting which should make it properly use Einkorn flour (the original wheat that God made before people hybridized it a billion times and made it mostly undigestable), since "First Grain" has lower gluten, and too much kneeding will cause the bread to fall flat. Another good feature about this one compared to most, is that the finished loaf turns out more the shape one expects a bread loaf should be. However, the one drawback to all these machines is that they bake the bread with the mixing blades inside the loaf, leaving large holes in many of the slices - and this one has two hole making blades. I am wondering if anyone knows of a machine with retracting blades that pull in flush with the bottom of the pan just before baking, to allow a smooth bottom on the bread loaf, and no gaping holes. This is what I have been waiting for since I got the machine I'm currently using, over 10 years ago. Unless the ancient one I have breaks down, I don't plan to buy an upgrade till I can have it all. :)
altierijorge
1
Jul 8, 2019
megalonzergThe Breville Custom Loaf Bread maker comes with a retracting blade. It will leave a small hole in the bread.
megalonzerg
90
Jul 8, 2019
altierijorgeThe Breadman BK2000B also has the "collapsible" paddles. These leave a notch in the bottom of some of the slices instead of a gaping hole and I think this would be an improvement, but I'm still hoping someone will make one with completely retractable ones. Thanks for the info.
paulmathiasuk
1
May 29, 2019
Is this better than the Panasonic SD-2501? I’ve tried several breadmakers over the years and the Panasonic is far and away the best I’ve used......and it’s considerably cheaper than the Zojirushi.
bizzwriter
12
Feb 21, 2019
I've got an older model (5 or 6 years old) Zojirushi bread maker and it's GREAT. I've made many, many loaves of bread with it and I'm super happy with the results. It's kind of fun playing with variations on the included recipes to see what happens when you put in more or less water, sugar, flour, etc. I'd buy this new one if my old one didn't still work so well. A reliable workhorse. p.s. This machine produces a LARGE loaf of bread -- plenty for 8+ hungry people.
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vrveerar
11
Feb 21, 2019
Zojirushi is selling the same on Amazon for $260 with free delivery and an accessory kit - https://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-Bakery-Virtuoso-Breadmaker-Accessory/dp/B009WW802W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1550717029&sr=8-3&keywords=bb-pdc20. What am I missing here?
garage_logician
26
Feb 21, 2019
vrveerarThe one on Massdrop is the Virtusso Plus, at least based on the picture.
bizzwriter
12
Feb 22, 2019
garage_logicianRight you are -- it's currently $320 on Amazon -- $260 here on Massdrop https://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-BB-PDC20BA-Virtuoso-Breadmaker-Stainless/dp/B07BQ28TQ6
goatwoodward
1
Feb 20, 2019
I have a Zojirushi rice cooker and I adore it. I know the country in which each appliance is made can make a big quality difference for this brand: is this made in Japan, China, or elsewhere? If it's Japan, I'm in. China... I'll have to think about it...
Finance
1
Feb 1, 2019
Will there be another drop for this?
FinanceHope so!
dbogie
26
Jan 12, 2019
Mine arrived a week ahead of schedule. Two loaves done to perfection. There was a terrible buzz-rattle as the motor drove the kneading blades. I got most of the noise eliminated by tightening every visible screw and bolt but the obnoxious noise indicates a serious design flaw or construction error. Compared to my older Zo, the new case is light metal instead of thick plastic so, yeah, it’s noisy. The second 40 watt heater in the lid is a serious boost to better bread. The new control panel is easier to read. There is a weird feature that prospective buyers should know: when a course is initiated, the time on the display does not count down to the end of the bake cycle. Instead, the display shows the time of day the bread will be ready. Cannot be changed. Except for the unfortunate rattle and buzz, this is a great upgrade from my ancient Zo. Back in a few weeks after some more baking and eating of luxury calories.
enean
0
Jan 31, 2020
dbogieI have the BB-PAC-20 and have the same problem. When the breadmaker goes into kneading mode, a loud buzzing sound starts and it is really really loud. Noticed that lightly pressing the digital display with my thumb the sound stops. I don't have the proper screwdriver that will fit into the screw but will get one to see if the screws have loosened in the three years I've had the machine. In the meantime I take a Pyrex and place it on the display to stop that noise. Unfortunately the warranty expired but the machine works perfectly otherwise. Thank you for your post, it feels good to know that I am not the only one experiencing this.
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dbogie
26
Jan 31, 2020
eneanI have traced the buzz on my machine to the lid. If I press lightly on the lid, the rattle/buzz goes away. Suggests there is a loose bolt or poorly fitted sub-assembly in that region.
andrewebay1
259
Dec 23, 2018
I would like to buy this but know nothing of baking breads. However I have had family and friends who bake for me from time to time keto-friendly loafs of bread. I'd like to start making my own and wondering if this machine is able to make something like this: https://www.fatforweightloss.com.au/recipe/keto-bread/
dbogie
26
Feb 21, 2019
andrewebay1You can visit the Zojirushi website to download the user manual for this model. I don’t know what your recipe requires but most currently available higher end bread machines have software that supports all types of special needs baking projects. Basically they just compensate with longer or shorter parts of a cycle to accommodate weird flours and protein sources.
Naftoor
291
Dec 20, 2018
Protips regarding this machine. 1) Don't use it to bake bread. No, really. Your oven will provide better results and you have more control over the process. 2) It is however, AMAZING at mixing bread dough. My family has had one for years and I can't tell you how many batches of pizza or baguette dough we've thrown through it. Easily in the hundreds at this point. It's given us no problems, and the nonstick interior makes it easy to crack out the dough once it dries, so clean up is a breeze. It's better then a stand mixer if you make bread, as the motors are higher power. 3) It has a proof feature. You will use it. You will love it. Our goto is a custom cycle that kneads for 20-30ish mins, then proofs it for about 90 minutes. The feature is fantastic, particularly if you have a large drafty house, and don't want to sacrifice an oven to keep your dough comfy and cozy so the yeasty beasties can do their work without freezing to death. It's a life saver during holidays or when you're already using one or both ovens for roasts and other dishes, and makes bread baking in a single day feasible. (Another protip, toss the dough in the fridge for a few days, then bake it later. It'll be much more flavorful, the gluten will be better developed, and the crust will brown much more thoroughly.) If all you do is bread baking, then this is a superior option then the kitchen aids that have been posted here over the last few months. Non-commercial KAs are known to have reliability issues. My folks have had a KA for a touch longer then this bread machine and have had to repair it twice. Which is impressive considering this machine takes on 80% of the heavy duty mixing load. Solid product, that'll save you hours of kneading by hand or worrying over the sounds your stand mixer is making.
Naftoor
291
Jan 15, 2019
And I'll have to strongly disagree with your points in turn sir! I would recommend someone who does a significant amount of bread baking to purchase this over a stand mixer any day. I've mentioned it in prior discussions on one of the kitchenaid stand mixers here on MD, but my family had the zojirushi supreme and a KA stand mixers. We baked a non-insignificant amount of bread before my parents went on a health kick after I moved out, 2-3 loaves per week, at times more. During the 7 years or so this happened the kitchenaid essentially fell apart, twice; it was after the first time my dad picked up the zojirushi on recommendations from other bakers to use as a dedicated mix/proof system. As such it took on any loaf that wasn't hand kneaded, which was most of them. It's run since purchased with no issues. But to summarize why I would recommend someone who bakes a large amount of bread to pick up a high end zojirushi bread machine exclusively for mixing/proofing? 1) They're sturdier than an equivalent stand mixer. A KAs worm gears fail like they slept through the entire last semester and it's exam day. Strain them and they will crack and require replacement, not an impossible task but an irritating one that is pretty easily brought on by a batch of low hydration dough. 2) They have a higher power motor then a KA. 700W vs 575 or 600W. This means less strain and overheating, and subsequently less chance of failure when developing gluten. 3) They're enclosed. Simple enough. no flour explosions initially as compared to a KA. Much easier cleanup. The nonstick bowl makes mixed dough simply crack out into the trash can once it dries. 4) They're quieter. Since they're enclosed. I found the bread machine to be more bearable then the plaintive whines of the KA as either of them worked. 5) Price against price, they're cheaper. One of these machines against an equivalent used commercial unit (which are the only type beefy enough to live a life as a bread mixer) or a high end consumer mixer like an ankarsum is a pretty easy win for a zojirushi. 250 vs 700+. Sure there are KAs in the 250 range, but they won't survive long use for thick doughs or extended mixes. 6) It has a built in proofing feature. Seriously, this is an incredible feature. It makes starting bread in the afternoon and having it for dinner a very real possibility, which could work without it if you're willing to use your oven preheated for a few minutes or with the interior light on. 7) Bread baked in a bread machine is terrible. Ok not entirely true. It's leagues better then store bought and will be a gateway drug to bread making. However it can't compare to what your oven can create. The loaves are too dense, likely due to the heating process since the bread isn't going directly into a preheated oven. Bake the same recipe of white bread, one in a bread machine and one in the oven and you'll see how big a difference it is. 8) It's smaller then a KA. 18 x 10.5 x 12.9 in vs 14.4 x 11.3 x 16.4 in means it's smaller in the most important feature for most counter tops, height. Easier to fit under cabinets. In short? No, this isn't for everyone. I don't have a stand mixer or bread machine currently, being a broke young adult. I make up for it with autolyse, a belief that the loaf in front of me owes me money and plenty of stretch and folding to finish. It gets the job done. if all I baked was bread, then I would save for one of these in the future, as it offers performance at a price nothing else can match. This is also the item I would look at if I was elderly or had a disability that impacted my ability to knead by hand and wished to make homemade bread; the mixing feature is reliable and allows you to focus on the shaping and baking process which is much less physically demanding then kneading. All the same friend, so long as more people start baking, the amount of happiness in the world goes up so I can't say that's a bad thing, regardless of how they knead their bread. I most definitely do agree with you that no matter how you mix your bread, unless you're pressed for time or don't have an oven then learning to use your oven properly is the biggest improvement most people will make.
Dworks
11
Feb 21, 2019
NaftoorThis is all excellent advice. Thank you. I've been baking bread for decades, both personally and professionally. Not only will you miss oven spring for a light and airy texture but won't ever develop the crust that makes bread so special if using the machine rather than a smoking hot oven. Another tip is to use a baking steel and cover the loaf with a roasting pan lid when you first put it into the oven. It traps the moisture and allows for the most spring to the loaf, simulating what a commercial oven achieves. Take the lid off after about ten minutes and let the crust brown. I'm hungry... *wanders off*
SanDar1224
7
Dec 19, 2018
We have one and I love it. Use it to make all sorts of breads and dough. Only problem is that you have to have quite a bit of counter space. It's huge!
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