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TeenageMutantNinjaSquirtle
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Mar 30, 2017
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This looks like a cool bag but I am a little hung up on the lack of hood. Not only for warmth: my hood is what holds my pillow in place. Does anyone have experience with a bag like this?
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Mar 30, 2017
ElectronicVices
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Apr 2, 2017
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TeenageMutantNinjaSquirtleI have quilts from UGQ and HammockGear (same basic function), and use a lightweight merino balaclava in place of the hood when hanging or ground sleeping. My down/inflatable hybrid pillow has a loop that I attach to my ridgeline(hammock) or my sleeping pad with shock cord. I dearly love my quilts and will not be bringing my sleeping bag except for extreme wet weather trips where synthetic fill is desired.
Apr 2, 2017
anon9
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Oct 7, 2017
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TeenageMutantNinjaSquirtleA lot of people are using quilts now and they're actually pretty popular. I have one and also use a Klymit X pillow. I don't have any issues with my pillow staying in place, but some of that may also be due to the design of the pillow.
Oct 7, 2017
garybolen
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Oct 8, 2017
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TeenageMutantNinjaSquirtleI have their 20 degree bag. I use the Neemo Filo pillow (it's heavy, but I sleep so much better with it) and a really old but awesome Therm-a-rest lite pad. I don't have a problem with my pillow. I also took a Sea to Summit UL pillow with me on two trips and had no problems with it (But didn't like the way it slept). I used to use a mummy bag and thought that the hood helped keep the pillow in place but found that it wasn't an issue.
Somebody else mentioned that the Zpacks' ratings were generous, but I think 20 degrees is what mainstream bags refer to as the EN Lower Limit and the EN Comfort Limit is closer to 30 degrees. This is normal in mainstream bags and isn't an issue or an attempt at Zpacks to dissemble.
The loft on my 20 degree bag is incredible. The bag itself (Standard length/width) is also lighter than my EE 40 degree quilt I believe. However, at 20 (or even 30) degrees, you need a minimum of a skull cap or better yet, a balaclava, to be comfortable. The standard width is fairly snug, which I didn't like at first but it didn't bother me after my first couple of trips. I do sleep with lightweight thermals if I expect colder weather.
Really, aside from the closed foot box, the Zpacks bag isn't all that much different than a quilt, except that it is more expensive but lighter. My 20 degree Zpacks bag is lighter than my 40 degree EE quilt, even though the quilt has less materials being a quilt.
Oct 8, 2017
clintonalden
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Oct 10, 2017
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TeenageMutantNinjaSquirtleI have a down quilt without a hood and I have found that the lack of a hood is not an issue. I have the Klymit X Pillow (that I bought off massdrop) and it does not move around that much during the night. This might be different for you depending on your pillow though.
Oct 10, 2017
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