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Any interest in other physical layouts?

Oct 20, 2018

I usually type on European type keyboards, which have a double height carriage return (that's "enter" for you youngsters) key; it takes up the right-hand end of the top and middle line of letter keys (the QWERTY and ASDF rows).
Is there any chance of there being enough of us here to get a drop with this size carriage return key?

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ProfessorPat

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Oct 23, 2018

Plenty of people call it a return key rather than an enter key, but I haven't seen anything with a carriage in so long there's no real reason to still call it a carriage return... But you could start the argument that the qwerty makes no sense either since hammers have been gone for a long time and there's nothing to bind up (though 2kro is usually low enough you can have a speed issue still).
Anyway, that's ISO layout, and it's pretty readily available in a lot of boards. The ISO Code keyboard has dropped multiple times. Most keycap sets have an ISO return key available, and most custom and kit boards have an option to use that layout.
As for other layouts, ortho and ergo layouts are all over here too. Plenty of non-US ANSI layouts floating around.

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ProfessorPat

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Oct 23, 2018

Nope. You'd need switches in the ISO locations, or a board capable of being desoldered and converted. The caps alone won't make your board ISO. You'll need switches configured for it. There are quite a few options in pre-built boards, but the only one that comes to mind right now is what wasdkeyboards.com offers.
Look at the PCB for the KBD661 kit to see what I mean. The board has switch locations for a centered switch on an ANSI return key, and one next to it, where it would be covered by the return key unless using ISO. Above it is a switch location between rows, which would be for an ISO return, and above that is the ANSI \ key location.

There are certainly boards out there capable of being done either way, but in all likelihood, if you've got ANSI, you're stuck with it. If you've got ISO, you won't have an ANSI option.

Keithis

Oct 23, 2018

ProfessorPatAgain, many thanks for this very helpful answer. I've read no end of articles about keyboard layouts, and this little gem of information about key switch positioning on the PCB has been missing from them all.

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