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Shure SE846 - $1000 (got mine for $700 new) - SQ depends on filter but varies from warm, musical to "balanced" Shure SE535 - $450 (got mine for $300 new) - Natural, flat, and smooth with a touch of warmth Shure SE215 - $100 - V shaped and punchy Noble X Wizard - $300 - Warm, dark, dynamic, and very punchy Massdrop Plus - $300 - Neutral with slight sub/mid bass bump Pinnacle PX - $115 - Neutral and polite Nuforce EDC - $60 - Very warm, V shaped, and punchy Nuforce EDC3 - $100 - Very Neutral and polite. A smooth operator with a hint of warmth
This doesn't include all the stuff I've returned or sold but my current stable. Out of everything, the Shure 846 is hands down my favorite with black filters. It's just so smooth, detailed fast, musical and punchy that there isn't a genre on it I dislike beyond classical. If I were to sell anything else, I would always keep the 846. The Noble's would be my 2nd favorite followed by the MD+ for 3rd. The 535 is a great runner-up but is music dependent and against my top 3 it can sound a bit boring by comparison. All the others are good just eclipsed by my other sets and genre specific as well.
hohsis
35
May 6, 2018
jaydunndidditHow do u think the MD+ compare to 846?
hohsisTo be frank, the 846 is TOTL and unique while the MD+ is just good. The 846 easily beats the MD+ in every category from the lows, mids, and highs to its soundstage, imaging, and tonality. Even from an ergonomics perspective, I find them superior due to the smaller nozzle and teardrop shape. The nozzle, collar, and good portion of it's innards are all metal so the 846 to me will outlast the MD+ easily. Throw in the user-adjustable filters and you have an IEM that can fit any genre and change to your mood.
You want to mod the 846? That's an option as well and you can swap in any Knowles damper and tweak the sound even more. Toss in that Sensaphonics makes custom sleeves on the cheap specifically for the 846 just further gives them the advantage to any IEM in its price bracket.
tl;dr The MD+ is a good IEM for it's price bracket but it is not TOTL as the 846. The latter is just in a different league.
hohsis
35
May 6, 2018
jaydunndidditThanks for the reply buddy. I'm rocking my 846 right now but I've read elsewhere that MD+ are just as competent as these. Looking at the specs it does say it uses two vented bass drivers while all drivers in 846 are completely sealed with a long waveguide to gently roll off bass.
Your reply really gives me some peace of mind. Just asking, have you tried both with desktop amps? I know it sounds kinda silly but for low-sens IEMs like IM04 a desktop amp makes a world of difference. Also have you tried swapping cables for MD Plus? I've swapped stock cable for an aftermarket one for my 846 and it really brought the somewhat muffled treble out by quite a margin =D
hohsisDon't get me wrong, I enjoy the MD+ but it's just different. I have pretty much always found them a bit shouty and forward in the vocal range. I've never experienced this with the 846 and think they do vocals well. And while the MD+ has a touch more mid bass, it just can't compete with the low pass filter of the 846 from a speed or to texture. The bass on the 846 just cannot be touched.
And yes, I have balanced cables for both and have run them out of my iFi balanced and through my CTH. Both fair well but where the MD+ is a lot more senssitive to output impedance and volume, the 846 stays MUCH more consistent across amps and sources. The MD+ is more of a Frankenstein as it's character can change quite a bit depending on the impedance it's being fed. That, and it can get a bit shouty and congested if the impedance gets too high IMO. I prefer it be kept under 1 ohm and they sound much more competent to me ears. Much more polite and smooth.
And I will say, I'm not.mich of a treble head and enjoy the 846 as is. I actually normally use the black/blue filters as the white is too bright and borderline sibilant to my ears at times. Sadly, I'm just really sensitive to that so I prefer my high end to be polite or else it gives me bad headaches and just overall discomfort. Luckily, I realized this before getting a silver cable as that's what everyone recommends for the 846. I use a balanced MEE cable currently and think it keeps the 846 in the range that's most pleasing to me.
hohsis
35
May 6, 2018
jaydunndidditMEE balanced cables you say? I used to have one for 846 as well. Pretty neat cables. Since nowadays I mostly pair these with Micro iDSD BL I reterminated a 1/8 inch cable to a 1/4 jack so I don't have to use any adapters. One thing I like about 846 is that they're not source sensitive at all, you took the words right out of my mouth =D There is a noticeable improvement going from an iPhone to iDSD, these things scale pretty well. For kek and giggles I even plugged these into a friend's Ragnarock for once and boy that amp makes 846 sounds like its worth another grand. Still, with an iPhone you can get about 90% worth of its capability, not many BAs do that.
Also, hearing your statement about MD+ really puts my mind at ease. The impedance match thing reminds me of IM04. I don't even know its possible before I bought these but man, these things are hiss-sensitive and inefficient at the same time. On a low-powered source they sound very anemic while on a high-powered one hiss can drown out everything. You really have to take a close look at the output impedance before plugging these in. What's worse, these things only shine with desktop amps cuz no portable amps have enough juice for them. For this alone I reterminated the plug to a 1/4 one as well. If MD+ has the same issue I think I'm gonna pass, especially your statement about its bass. The only reason I'm looking forward to it is its bass, if bass on it is bloated and doesn't extend as deep as 846 then that's another pass for me.
In the end, I do feel like you pay extra for 846 just for its convenience and ease of pairing. These really aren't picky at all and the bass for BA is just phenomenal. Just asking, what tips do you use with the 846? I used to like Comply tips for comfort but they muffle the sound too much, nowadays I switched to westone star tips the sound is a lot less muffled and congested, but I do miss Comply for its BIG, THICC bass. If somehow there's a tip out there that finds a balance between these two it'd be great.
hohsisThis is the cable and adapter set I use: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076PWSSSJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525660384&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=mee+balanced+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=41cFP%2BzqL-L&ref=plSrch.
It covers pretty much every device you would need. I also have a 2.5mm TRRS to XLR for balanced desktop units.
For tips, I use the Shure triple flanges and yellow foam as they fit my odd shaped ear canals better. I haven't been a big fan of Comply or the Shure olives as they're either too small or too big. The yellow foamies are just about perfect for me. I also use Westone star tips in orange silicone. I haven't tried their foam but that's on my purchase list. I also like the large Nuforce silicone tips for something more shallow. Their silicone is softer and has a nice flex that confirms nicely.
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