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ChrisE
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Nov 7, 2018
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Tldr: none of those for pure gaming, get the PC37X with a nice sound card, maybe Soundblaster Zx, and you're done for about $250-300. Otherwise you'll want an amp/dac and I couldn't find a better combo until I spent about $2000 (HD 800 S, Valhalla 2, Modi Multibit).
I agree with fhood that audiophile is very different from gaming purposes and on sound profile, although I recommend open back unless you really get a lot of noise pollution or game in a room with someone else. My Sennheiser HD 650s had a pretty good sound stage and audio quality in game, but honestly I felt Senns gaming headset had much better accuracy in producing game sounds (gunshots/explosions/footsteps) and were only outshined when listening to music and the midrange was sweet. So if you want to game and be able to listen to sweet music then do the 6XX. Otherwise the PC37X gaming headset is also on massdrop if you're interested, it's cheaper, and better for straight gaming IMO. It uses the same driver as the HD 598 headphones but is tuned for gaming and adds a decentish mic. It's also labeled as open back but it's not as open as most open back headphones, it's more of a hybrid and I think it's part of why it's taken me a long time to find a better pair of cans.
I ended up actually returning my HD 650's for Sennheiser HD 800 S's which are EPICCC when it comes to sound stage. I feel like a God in Siege listening to people walk through the buildings or like I'm in the middle of a concert when listening to music. Also can't recommend Schiit audio enough for amp/dac if you go that route, Valhalla 2 and Modi Multibit are a pretty epic combo with the 6XX or the 800 S, especially for classic rock and acoustic.
Also, never tested the K7XX, that one seems to be getting recommended a lot though for gaming focus. But I didn't find a setup better than my pc37x (I had the actual Senn version, but appears the same) with a Soundblaster Zx until I spent about $2000... My original setup was like... $300... You don't need that kind of hardware for ONLY gaming, it's more for listening to music, so you can hear every single instrument perfectly neutral with .000001% distortion and have Nirvanas acoustic album caress your cajones through your eardrums.
AlexxTheGreaat
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Nov 12, 2018
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ChrisEI Have the PC37Xs and they feel like theyre lacking. I can hear footsteps, sure. But i feel i dont pick them up from as far away as possible. Ive tried other gaming headsets that pickup footsteps better much better, like the cloud alphas. The only reason i dont use gaming headsets is because the bass is to harsh and makes everything else sound muddy. Infact the PC37X is what made me get into Audiophile headsets. It made me realize their are better options out there. I have it paired with the Soundblaster AE-5. And once i turned on the virtual surround sound on that card it made a huge difference for directional audio. But ive read that their are other headphones out there that would do much better than the PC37Xs due to having a bigger sound stage and overall, better sound quality. The PC37Xs is talked about as a good budget solution with a mic. But people tend to say if you want better than that, there is better options. And AKG, Audio technica, and higer end sennheisers seem to be higher up on the list for a better gaming experience than the PC37Xs
ChrisE
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Nov 12, 2018
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AlexxTheGreaatI can only speak for some of the Senns. I've seen AKG come up a lot and I haven't tried audio technica, but the 600 and 650 I felt like occasionally I would turn towards a footstep and it would be completely wrong direction or that gunfire was not as powerful, especially in say Battlefield 1. I've never used virtual surround sound though or any audio enhancements besides equipment and core audio drivers so can't compare performance with that.
Honestly you'll probably just need to try different pairs and see what you like, I felt pretty good about my recommendation but after you said you're not a big fan of the same pair I wonder, lol.
AlexxTheGreaat
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Nov 12, 2018
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ChrisEWell I did order the K7xx. This will most likely either help me realize the PC37Xs are amazing, or arent as good as other options out there. See the reality is before i bought the PC37Xs, i had the Cloud Alphas. I purchased the PC37Xs to replace them after they broke. At first i thought "wow, what a boring pair. their is no base. and i dont think it sounds as good". After playing with them exclusively for 2 weeks, I repurchased the cloud alphas and they literally hurt my ears at higher volumes. the bass was to much and the audio was not as clean and warm. That is when i went down the audiophile rabbit hole. And im not looking back. Gaming headsets are terrible and The PC37xs paired with amps or soundcards are amazing. But even now im hoping to find a headset that sounds better than the PC37xs because once i went down the rabbit hole i saw hundreds of other options out there the people claim are much better than the PC37xs. Example the Sen 6XX with a mod mic or the K7xx with a mod mic. The PC37xs is rarely mentioned and when it is its more as a casual recommendation because its a good "starter" headset.
jaydunndiddit
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Nov 12, 2018
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AlexxTheGreaatPersonally, I use something like my Focal Elex for gaming and find it hard to go back to anything else. I used to rock Sony Golds, Turtle Beach, etc. for their dedicated 7.1 virtual surround but have found out high quality stereo has been the best for me while gaming. Paired with something like the Elex that has amazing resolution and clarity will give you an advantage as you can just hear more and discern between dynamic sounds much easier. They lack bass impact but have enough to not be bass anemic. Their soundstage is also natural whereas the 7XX sounds very artificial and weird. And while huge, their ability to image and place sounds within that soundstage are average at best. I ended up sending mine back and stuck with the HE4XX and TRX00 for a while before landing with the Elex. Clarity, imaging, and separation have mattered more to me than bass or a huge soundstage. I play stuff like Battlefield, COD, Rocket League, Forza, RDR2, etc. I also game out of a Yamaha A3080 so my experience my be a bit tilted but for consoles/AVR but if you want an uncompromised experience where you want the best, look at a TOTL headphone and never look back. You'll also have a solid set for music listening as well so you kill two birds with one stone. There are also many who game with HD 700/800s for good reason as well.
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