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peripatetes
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Jun 1, 2017
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Even though there are plenty of success stories with 5lb base weights _under the right circumstances_, I think drawing the "ultralight" line at 10lbs probably does more harm than good, especially in "introduction to UL backpacking" type materials. It's worthwhile for any backpacker to get serious about going ultralight in a broader sense. But inexperienced backpackers making "stupid light" decisions to meet a round-number cutoff is not what UL is about.
Base weight really should include (weight of SAR crew and all their gear)*(probability that SAR crew is going to have to haul your sorry unprepared butt out of the woods when something goes wrong).
Also, talking about those weight limits as "gospel" doesn't help with the continual "this gear isn't TRULY ultralight!" "yes, it is!" "no, it's not!" unproductive conversations that have sometimes seemed to dominate practically every item's discussion page.
Jun 1, 2017
JerkyKen
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Jun 10, 2017
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peripatetesGood to push the envelope under the right conditions. We'd still be hauling 60 pounds of crap with a greater chance of injury. nobody suggests a thru hike as a first backpacking trip.
Jun 10, 2017
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