Apr 13, 201711955 views

Hi, We're Ferrum Forge Knife Works

The fine folks at Massdrop asked us to tell the story of Ferrum Forge Knife Works... little did they know what they were asking. This is a transcript of what we said, cleaned up of course.
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Elliot: Well hey there, I’m Elliot Williamson, CEO and lead designer here at Ferrum Forge Knife Works. This is my brother Chris.
Chris: Hey everyone, I’m Chris Williamson, CFO and what I like to call the Conscience. He’s a creative guy, but some of his ideas can be a bit “out there”. Every artist needs an editor.
Elliot: That is actually true! But that’s not the whole story of what we do around here. Since there are only two of us here, we do everything and we mean - everything. We might be the only executives that still have to clean the bathroom. While I do the heavy lifting of the designing, engineering, and planning for our knife runs, Chris evaluates and approves what I come up with - since we both build our knives. Plus Chris is in charge of writing the checks so he has to keep me grounded in the real world.
Chris: The struggle is real, but the balance of Elliot’s creativity and imagination and my logistical awareness have created something greater than just the two of us making knives together.
Elliot: To give you an idea of what Chris means we should probably tell you a little bit about our story, because you kind of have to know where we came from in order see where we’re going as a company and how this partnership with Massdrop and WE Knife Co. came to be and why it’s pretty special. This all starts years ago in the days of our youth with our Grandfather. Like most men from his generation, he carried and used a knife everyday. At the age of 4 he made sure that Chris and I had our very own knives, but taught us how to respect a tool and use it safely. Years later, with my knife addiction at full power, my tastes in knives started getting more and more expensive. This got me wondering about why knives cost what they do and I did what I do best and started researching why some knives can get up over $1000. And that’s when I found out about custom knives and my eyes were opened. I consider myself a crafty fella and figured if people have been making edged tool for thousands of years, I can make one in my garage. Over the years I got pretty good at building and fixing things, partially because I break everything and partially due to the influence of our father, who was actually a professional baseball player, but was going to college to get an Engineering degree before he was drafted by the San Diego Padres. After baseball he took his mechanical engineering background and applied it to crafting custom furniture and cabinets.
Chris: He actually took one of the drops from waterjet and built a coffee table to fit the piece of steel as the table top, it’s in my apartment and everyone that sees it marvels at it.
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Oh yeah and here's the Falcon people are talking about out in the wild with me on a hike.
Elliot: In 2009 I did it. I started making knives in my garage, well, formerly my grandparents garage that I spent many childhood hours playing around in with power tools. Looking back, they must have been a little crazy to let a child near power tools. But hey, I still have all of my fingers (and so does Chris) so it worked out. It was only natural that adult me, full of vigor for making knives, built a gerry rigged forge, found some random railroad track for an anvil and started heating up and hammering out whatever steel I could find including files and salvaged leaf springs.
Chris: Yeah he tried… they were, um, rustic looking knives. Some might even say prison shank-ish.
Elliot: Now don’t get me wrong, pounding a hot piece of steel into shape has a certain joy to it, but it was very time consuming, very loud (especially in a residential neighborhood), very hot, and did i mention very time consuming? Ferrum Forge was named during my early forging days and is still a reminder of where we came from and how much we’ve grown. It took about 6 months of forging steel to realize it is far from the best method of making a knife. Around that time I had my first large paradigm shift. I started collecting more grinding equipment and moved to stock removal rather than forging. Along the way i was devouring every bit of info about knives, metallurgy, material science and engineering from books and our favorite source of information, the internet. By 2012, I made my first folder and things started to change for my little hobby business.
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And here is my favorite studio shot of the Falcon... such class
Chris: I was starting to stop by on the weekends back in 2011 after I graduated from college, learning and helping out. We used to talk about how to take what we were doing in the garage and turn it into a real business since we both liked making knives and, let’s face it, it’s pretty cool to be able to make a knife, really anything, and then to have other people give you money for it.
Elliot: By the end of 2012 I had significant wait list for folders and back then I was doing something that was pretty unique even in the custom knife world. I would make whatever people wanted. I would often get a picture through email of a drawing on a napkin of something that looked kinda like a knife, and I would redraw it and eventually make it a real knife. This was a very educational process and I have made some things that were a little out there, but it was also a very long process and I certainly wasn’t able to sustain knife making with what I was charging for knives, and my prices were right around what we charge for a knife these days. In the beginning of 2013 the opportunity arose to move into this shop and I could not pass it up. So I started what I think of as the modern era of Ferrum Forge.
Chris: You can actually see all of this on our youtube channel. Elliot started making videos in early 2012. There are over 120 videos so it will take you some time to watch them all, but you can actually watch the evolution of Ferrum Forge over the years.
Elliot: I do have to warn you, they are not high quality videos, in fact, some are real bad, but it was what we had to work with. It was in 2013 that we went all in on a more modern mode of knife making and bought a CNC mill, I taught myself Computer Aided Design and Computer Aided Manufacturing software, we started having parts cut from sheets of steel and titanium by waterjet, and I taught myself how to run a CNC mill. It was huge learning experience and if I’m being really honest, it wasn’t a hugely successful endeavor. But it did lay the foundation for how we make knives now by teaching me, in very specific ways how to design knives to be machined with modern manufacturing methods and how to keep the machining cost low so we could offer knives at the prices we offer them at now. But even at as low a price as we can offer knives with level build quality and materials we do now, we have always know that our prices are still out of reach for most people.
Chris: The goal of that run was to offer a knife with the quality of a custom knife but at an attainable price. We’ve spent the last 4 years refining our process and attempting to minimize the cost of our knives and have been fairly successful, dropping the price from an average of $800 down to $500. Unfortunately to bring the price lower we had to look outside of our manufacturing avenues.
Here's some shots of the CAD render of the Falcon:
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Elliot: I was impressed by several of the high-end knife manufactures that were popping up and so I started email them to learn more about them and what their capabilities looked like. I already had the Falcon design in mind as the first design to have manufactured, but I needed to find a company that would be able to make my design with the same level of precision and attention to detail in the fit and finish that we do here. I found that in WE Knife Co and began design discussions. There was just one big problem. In order to see significant cost reduction, we have to increase the number of units produced and as a 2 man operation we are limited in our ability to present the knives properly to the right audience. This is where Massdrop stepped in and the idea of this collaboration was born. The more we discussed the possibilities, the more exciting the project became and has taken over 7 month of dedicated work between Ferrum Forge, Massdrop, and WE Knife Co., but we finally have the first model in our (hopefully) long collaborative line of knives ready to make its debut: The Falcon!
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Elliot: The Falcon is the latest refinement of this design motif and it is also the least expensive. The BAK, which we only made 25 of in 2014, was $1200. The AFY was $800, the Fortis was $500 and when we make the AFY v2 it will be $500. We are actually pretty proud of the fact the Falcon can have all of the features of one of our knives, and then some, and be a fraction of the price. And believe me people this was no easy feat to pull off. The Falcon has been years in the making.
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Love my Falcon! Here's a shot I took on a trip to Oregon last month. Very well built knifes, proud owner of the Falcon, Crux, Buc, Gent and Fortis 2.0 (now on the drop for rosewood Gent and Dao... lol)! I can't get enough of these knives. Now waiting patiently for the Archbishop 2.0!
Love my Falcon.
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Droogs53
I like my Falcon a lot. The grip, whether using the choil/spine/grip or just the grip is very comfortable. It is about the minimum size for EDC and my preferred size. Beautiful design and WE carried out the construction superbly.
stoutdog
Fortis 2.0 has a very similar design, but much larger, I dig em both.
i was very surprised after getting my Falcon in mail call, found it a bit small for my taste but the design of the knife was absolute, with the addition of the milled wings on the flat side my ownlywish it that they create a much larger flacon; maybe one with a 4+ inch blade
Can we please, pretty please get lefty versions for left handers. We are left out and forgotten about. Thanx for the great knives you guys are crankin out!
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HudaNibs
It is lefty. Just not the milled ones sadly. Lefty carryier here
Gent is also reversible
I am waiting on a four inch as in 4" blade that is styled like a BAK, Mordax, or Ferox. I just like a longer blade what can I say. The knives that you guys have done on Massdrop so far have looked great!!!
Is there a reason why you guys chose a blasted finish (for the handle) over say a satin or anodized finish?
Ares78
I think the handle feels chalky and almost bad at first, but after a month or two of handling it feels great
I love mine, i'll be a life time buyer of FF. I'll save up and pay for a real one at some point but these WE produced FF designed knives are amazing for the price. I have a falcon and carry it daily and i will receive my Gent here very soon according it my emails from MD
Just a quick question , can you also do fram lock for left hand ?
Can't wait to get mine from the drop on this beautiful knife, you guys are killing it on your design, I absolutely love it
Good,a Well Built Knifes
You guys make some beautiful knives. I'd just like to mention, since you are engaging the community, that often times the best knives from various manufacturers aren't an option for me because I am left-handed and for aesthetics they limit the clip to one side on their best knives. I already have utilitarian options well covered, so while I am focused on premium knives now, I'll often pass on them not because I don't want what they offer, but because it is not really accessible to me. Whenever possible, please try to include clip options for us lefties. Thanks.
dicetrain
Clips and locking mechanisms. Thanx for posting. We need more lefties to ask for these knives in left handed versions.
dicetrain
Clips and locking mechanisms. Thanx for posting. We need more lefties to ask for these knives in left handed versions. Represent!
What do you harden the blade to?
grwulff
Magic!
I don't know if the purchase site is screwed up or it's on my end but I've tried to purchase the Falcon & it never took my PayPal! So maybe I have 3 coming my way or "0"! Jim
I bought a Ferrum Forge Septer a few months ago and I have to say I couldn't be more impressed with that knife. It's a work of art, but still so solid and useable. I love it. So naturally I signed up for this one as soon as I saw it. Now I just have to find an Archbishop somewhere.
This promises to be a hit. Owning both Ferrum Forge knives and WE production knives, this is going to be a sellout collaboration.
Wish I could afford a ffkw outright but i can't is there anywhere that offers a payment plan I sure would love to own one
Bryant08776
Check out some of the knife websites like knifecenter.com, Arizona Customs, bladeHQ ...There are dozens... Some offer a payment plan some do not... Good luck!
Bryant08776
credit card!
Hmm... What does the pivit run on?
megical_banana
The specs say caged bearings and a ceramic detent ball!
This knife looks spectacular! I love the design and function. These prices are still out of my league, but I can appreciate the quality.
One of the biggest features that I look for in a knife, that is largely not yet attended too is the lateral strength of a folding knife. There are several ways to achieve this, one is putting more knife blade material inside the handle, like in a friction locking knife. Another is tight fitting metal-to-metal contact and a large/strong pin to hold it all together. Also consider putting a finger hole in the center of an oversized pin to make it even stronger and easier to hold.
Please feel free to contact me, and keep up the great work!
ConsumerAdvocate
What price is out of your league?
I did have one question tho.. all of my other FFKW knives have the adjustable detent feature, which Frankly I wish more knifemakers would embrace.. will the Falcon incorporate that feature as well?
Viajames
No, the HRD is an expensive part and something we want to keep for our Cali-made knives
Cant wait to check it out for myself, I'" curentry own Diamondback, Mordax, Archbishop, and have a Master blaster on the way! I really appreciate your attention to detail in your knives and I'm sure if WE knives gets your stamp of aproval they will turn out just fine. I honestly believe you wouldn't put your name on a knife that wasn't "quality", that's why I'm a fan now, and will continue to be a fan of FFKW!
Viajames
I want to buy your Archbishop! What a great knife, and so hard to find. Jealous!
The jimping on the flipper tab has me rethinking getting this. I got rid of my last flipper with agressive jimping on the tab because after about 5 or 6 flips my finger was raw, and these actually look sharper. Love everything else about it though.
Mrgauth
I just received my Falcon on 10/06/17. It is really a beautiful knife . My feedback is that the jimping on the flipper is extremely sharp! As Mrgauth noted, aggressive jimping produces a very raw thumb in a matter of a few actuations of the flipper. My only solution will be to modify the jimping using my dental hand pieces and micro burs......while I can do this myself, there are going to be many buyers who will suffer from the very sore and abraded, "Flipper Thumb Syndrome!" Good luck, Dantic, Albany, NY
I think this looks like a great little knive...what are the materials?
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I saw a price of 124.99 with free shipping and ships with a zippered case. I think the drop starts the 18th. I am a knife collector. I will definitely be picking one of these up. Any real ferrum forge starts at 500 for the mid tech version. So for a design from them for 125. For me is a must Buy.We should no more on the 18th.
Great I'm in also...thx for letting me know