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MonnoM
79
Jan 21, 2019
I just recently came across some good articles about integrating VBLs into tarp / winter camping and I'm considering springing for either a liner or suit. Hopefully in the next couple weeks I'll pitch in the local park with some cheap-o versions to get a sense of what that's like on the ground & get a feel for temperature management. Happy "hunting"!
mthayr
76
Jan 21, 2019
MonnoMInteresting, never really heard of Vapor Barrier Liners much before. Arc'teryx had some socks IIRC, but its an interesting idea wearing your bivy as a layer. Personally, I have a wood stove for my tipi; and when I'm using that (mid-Sept to late-November) "fast-n-light" are less important to me. Still, its an interesting concept. For anybody that's not heard of it (like me), you can read about it at: https://andrewskurka.com/2011/vapor-barrier-liners-theory-application/
iaswr
0
Jan 24, 2019
MonnoMI just tried out using the VBL method in a 3-hour hike in 18 degree weather with subzero windchill and I'm totally sold on it. Wore my rain gear between a base layer and outer layer, nitrile gloves between glove liners and wool mittens, and oven bags between liner socks and heavy woolen socks. Stayed toasty, even during stops. I've been tempted to try the WM HotSac in my sleep system, but decided I don't want to emerge from it wet. Keeping the base layer/rain gear combo on allows me to not have to expose wet skin when getting up in the morning.
MonnoM
79
Feb 5, 2019
iaswrNice, I had success with latex gloves & newspaper bags in my boots up in Strathcona park last week. Now that I think about it, the first year I went tree planting (many moons ago) I was hilariously under-equipped with shitty gear... but when we had a sudden sub-zero cold snap with thick snow I was the only one warm enough to keep planting, thanks to my ghetto army surplus rubber rain suit. >:) For anyone else interested in exploring cheap-o VBL options this seems to be a good candidate for an experimental bag liner https://www.amazon.com/Bivvy-Compact-Ultra-Lightweight-Sleeping/dp/B01M9CBOP3/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1 And if you're worried about getting soaked in one, lots of experienced folk recommend silk or nylon mesh for your base layer. I've got silk & mesh already, and this retailer sells mesh https://www.wiggys.com/clothing-outerwear/base-layer/ I don't terribly mind having to change in the morning / evening, but then again I'm not out on epic winter thru-hikes; generally 3-4 days max in the winter.
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