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jesse04030
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Apr 14, 2018
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Finally satisfied with my setup again
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Apr 14, 2018
DenonFanboy
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jesse04030Pretty clean man
Apr 14, 2018
Kassinsky
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jesse04030Bass heavy, bright, and neutral. Tubes, solid state and balanced. Damn do I envy you!
Apr 14, 2018
jesse04030
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KassinskyThank you! I am getting really exited atm for my HD6XX because those are supposed to have the mids :D
Apr 14, 2018
Kassinsky
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jesse04030they do!! But HD600 have a slightly better mid responses. just slightly.
Apr 14, 2018
jesse04030
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KassinskyReally? Was considering picking them up some time because you can find them new at pretty low prices in my country
Apr 14, 2018
Kassinsky
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jesse04030Well, the difference is rather negligible. say around 5%? IDK. Checkout Tyll's measurement on those on innerfidelity.
Apr 14, 2018
IBJammin
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jesse04030Eh I would say the mid-range response is roughly equal. The difference is that the HD-600 doesn't have as much bass response to cover it up.
Apr 14, 2018
ImADuck
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Apr 14, 2018
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jesse04030Why such amazing equipment... Yet such poor software quality? :/ Foobar2000 all the way!
Apr 14, 2018
jesse04030
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Apr 15, 2018
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ImADuckTo be honest: I did a couple of tests online and I cant hear any consistant difference between high-quality Spotify and flacs etc.
Apr 15, 2018
ImADuck
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Apr 15, 2018
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jesse04030Be careful with your sources for online flac files. a lot of them stick with up to 320KB/s because of compression and it saves resources (I don't blame them). Not only that, but Spotify doesn't provide many of the higher quality (re) masters of popular songs. I'll provide a link with Pink Floyd's Dark Side "Time"- The original CD master first pressed in Japan, a more recent remaster (not sure what year exactly, haven't looked for it haha), and the 320KB/s extreme quality that Spotify premium provides. But. That will need to wait a couple days since the first CD mastering is currently being shipped to my address.
Apr 15, 2018
jesse04030
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ImADuckThank you! The test was called Tidal ABX (http://abx.digitalfeed.net/) or something and it took a bit of time load the songs, so I believe it wasnt compressed or anything, but I am exited for your comparison anyways
Apr 15, 2018
ImADuck
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Apr 22, 2018
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jesse04030Okay, I've just gotten all the files together. I've put them all in one folder (just one song)... I've also changed the song due to simplicity, from "Time" to "Money". So, I put the songs into 4 different formats. One is the original 882kbps, one is 320kbps (spotify premium on select songs), 192kbps, and 96kbps. I've taken screenshots of aprox. the same time frame with the spectogram and spectrum graph for each of the quality. I've also taken the peak for the file.
I wrote up a word document, too. In that word document, I explained it a bit more... Anyways, I put it up in a mega.nz link. I encrypted it so it doesn't get taken down as quickly. But yeah.
Link: https://mega.nz/#F!3b5liAbJKey: ITJ6bzlnOXJSa2YtUkdCVVhrMF8tWUE= In order to decode the key, copy it and paste it in here: https://www.base64decode.org/ Once you get that key decoded, that's the key.
Enjoy :)
Apr 22, 2018
jesse04030
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Apr 23, 2018
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ImADuckSo, I´ve had a couple of listens and you are so damn right! I dont know what was wrong with the ABX-test, my system, my ears or whatever before, but this was incredibly reavealing. I listened to all the files (with AB-switching) with my Jotunheim with the AK4490-DAC and the DT1990 and it stepped up everything a bit. Especially the beginning is like you take a piece of cotton out of your hear once you go up to FLAC. I immediately got one of my favorite albums in FLAC (Deceptive Bends by 10cc) and it was almost like hearing it for the first time again, but only on certain songs. I feel like mostly the quiet parts and the highs are getting way better. The rest is almost unchanged compared to Spotify, but thats still completely worth it. I´ll be looking to do some further testing with something more modern like Daft Punk or Childish Gambino. Thank you very much for investing your time into this and showing me what I´ve been missing out on so far!
Apr 23, 2018
ImADuck
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Apr 23, 2018
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jesse04030Spotify is good for situations where you're not at home on your main rig. Personally, I will be working at a summer camp and obviously not able to take my computer or any good audio equipment. I take my Bose QC20s since I have insomnia & they replace my sleeping pills. They still sound great, but I use them to replace my medication. But yeah, mostly the extreme ends of the spectrum are messed with when compressing a FLAC file to an MP3 file. They figure; why keep details that not many people can hear or care to hear to begin with? So they usually cut off all frequencies beyond a certain threshold and remove samples of the entire track regardless of frequency or loudness. It's a bummer because vocals and string instruments sound like there's cotton in your ears. Everything becomes muffled and mushes together- you don't get as much distinction between instruments, etc. If you really want to hear music for the first time, I suggest listening to opera and/or acapella tracks in FLAC.
Here's a link for vocals and classical music on different bit/sample rates. Keep in mind that the file sizes can get stupidly large- a perfect example is Mozart: Violent Concerto in D major, which is 9 minutes and 24 seconds long at a whopping 1.4GB in file size. http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html I suggest you play around here, there's a lot to hear :)
Edit: Forgot to mention that there are "better" file types than even FLAC. DSD is fairly popular ranging from DSD 65 @ 2.8224Mbit/s to DSD 256 @ 11.2896Mbit/s. Most FLAC files are 24BITS/second. For reference, there are 2959501 bits in 2.8224 Megabits & 11838004 bits in 11.2896 Megabits. The point is that you've really reached the point of diminishing value and it's not worth your bandwidth/storage/time to strictly use these files since the truth is that we're only human & can't tell enough of a difference between the two in blind-tests. Not only can you not hear that difference enough of the time to make it worth it, but finding music in that file format is next to impossible. Stick to FLAC/MP3 on your main rig and MP3 spotify if you're away from your computer. :) I know this is a lot of information and most of the details I've presented don't really matter, but I hope you get the point. DSD/DXD >= FLAC > MP3. DSD/DXD is used in multi-million dollar budget movies FLAC is almost just as good, smaller, and put on CDs MP3 is a super compressed version of FLAC used for portability and very small size.
There is also another popular file format called .wav but I don't have enough knowledge on that format & I don't want to lead you astray.
Apr 23, 2018
ElectronicVices
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May 26, 2018
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ImADuckClose but not quite on the sample rates and word length quotes. DSD is 1-bit 2.8 Mhz aka 1-bit word length and sampled at 2.8244 milliion samples per second. Compared to 24 bit 192khz for hi-res PCM, aka 24-bit wordlength sampled at 192,000 times per second. 2x 4x etc.. DSD is just a higher sampling frequency. FLAC is not put on CD's, PCM is. Your PC reads pcm as .wav extension an d FLAC is a lossless compression codec for PCM/.WAV streams. DSD is used by Sony in it's recording studios, not multi-million dollar movies, that would be Atmos encoded high-resolution PCM streams as well as DTS-encoded PCM streams.
May 26, 2018
ImADuck
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May 29, 2018
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ElectronicVicesIt varies case by case, but yes. Thank you for clarifying for me. I'm just about to start college this next semester as a freshman so I don't have all of the knowledge and/or experience as others do. I'm not going to sit here and say I know everything when I don't.
Thanks!
May 29, 2018
ElectronicVices
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ImADuckYou'll get there, I've been interested in audio gear for the last 20+ years and I've still only scratched the surface on all the factors at play.
May 29, 2018
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