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tom.benedict
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Ostewart
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tom.benedictResonance is an issue with closed designs, only a handful really work well unfortunately, and most have some odd sounding reflections from the cups.
You say monitoring, for a vocal booth or similar yes you need closed back (but it doesn't have to be completely flat). But for mixing/mastering open back monitors will usually give a more accurate sound due to minimal reflections (DT880, HD600, German Maestro GMP400 etc...). If you look at studios the space is acoustically treated to absorb unwanted reflections, and very few closed back headphones are designed well enough to absorb the soundwaves from the back of the drivers.
You say monitoring, for a vocal booth or similar yes you need closed back (but it doesn't have to be completely flat). But for mixing/mastering open back monitors will usually give a more accurate sound due to minimal reflections (DT880, HD600, German Maestro GMP400 etc...). If you look at studios the space is acoustically treated to absorb unwanted reflections, and very few closed back headphones are designed well enough to absorb the soundwaves from the back of the drivers.
tom.benedict
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Jan 23, 2018
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OstewartI primarily do VO and field recording, and occasionally do foley. Especially in the case of field recording open backs aren't an option because of feedback.
I guess a better way to put it is "as flat as I can get it". I'd prefer completely flat because it's really my best bet for picking up issues when in the field. I took a look at the frequency response of the Sony MDR 7506, and you're right. It's more wobbly than I would've expected: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sony-mdr-7506.php
I knew it dropped off below 50Hz, but I was surprised to see the +6dB bump around 10k. Not an ideal situation for picking up wind rumble while recording birds, but wind will typically extend high enough above 50Hz to still hear it.
Here's the same site's review of the Sennheiser HD 600 open-back cans: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-600.php
It's got a similar drop below 50Hz, though I like how flat it is around 200-300Hz. But it falls off above 7k. Even if feedback wasn't an issue, that's a show stopper for monitoring bird calls.
I take your point about resonance issues with closed-back cans, but for the work I'm doing I'll stick with the ones I'm using.
I guess a better way to put it is "as flat as I can get it". I'd prefer completely flat because it's really my best bet for picking up issues when in the field. I took a look at the frequency response of the Sony MDR 7506, and you're right. It's more wobbly than I would've expected: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sony-mdr-7506.php
I knew it dropped off below 50Hz, but I was surprised to see the +6dB bump around 10k. Not an ideal situation for picking up wind rumble while recording birds, but wind will typically extend high enough above 50Hz to still hear it.
Here's the same site's review of the Sennheiser HD 600 open-back cans: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-600.php
It's got a similar drop below 50Hz, though I like how flat it is around 200-300Hz. But it falls off above 7k. Even if feedback wasn't an issue, that's a show stopper for monitoring bird calls.
I take your point about resonance issues with closed-back cans, but for the work I'm doing I'll stick with the ones I'm using.
Ostewart
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Jan 24, 2018
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tom.benedictDT880 would be my pick for a neutral monitor: http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/beyerdynamic-dt-880-pro.php
I'd take them over the HD600
I'd take them over the HD600
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In any case, I've got the NuForce EDC IEMs. I like them for music, but they don't have anything close to a flat response. There are some higher frequencies that don't show up much at all, and the bass is pretty heavily boosted. Fine for music, but I can't use them for monitoring.
But yeah, IEMs aren't ideal in an office setting. I get people coming in every couple of minutes to ask questions. Extracting an IEM from my ear canal every time someone walks in starts to get old after about two or three times. That doesn't even get me to 9am most days. I can flip back an ear cup on my monitors with a shrug (a maneuver I learned from Allen Williams, so credit to him.) Way the heck easier to do.