Jan 23, 2018644 views

What's YOUR Grail?


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I always like to ask this of people who are interested in watches. Billion dollar lottery, no debt, no worry (already sounds like a grail to me). What would you get?

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I won't say grail but on i really want is the A.Lange & Sohne 1815 platinum
Call me unsophisticated, but i've searched high and low for a digital watch that doesn't have the sportswear vibe. I just want a nice women's digital watch with the basic functionality of dates/alarms ect and a nice strap. I dont want a smart watch i have to charge every 10 hours. I just want to look nice when i wear my digital watch. >:
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Wow!! Looks great and congrats on the buy! I like the bold digits in contrast to other brands smaller digital displays.
Wear it in good health and spirit
StainlessOnly
Thanks! Thats also what sort of drew me in. They had a negative display version but the watch itself was much bigger and the screen was perfectly square rather than the rounded edges and just looked and bit off to me.
I got to try on a couple “grail” watches at a local jeweler - it’s nice to have a friend that works there 😏
Here are a few I tried on: - Breitling Heritage Superocean II - IWC Portofino hand-wound and more
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bmackay159
Any standouts?
Vincent.H
I feel like these were the top 3 IMO: 1. SuperOcean II 42mm - the 46mm was just a little too large for my wrist. My friend (the jeweler) made a tough argument on a Tudor dive watch, since they are quite similar, but I like the face on the Breitling more. 2. Rolex Datejust 41mm blue dial w/fluted bezel (no pictured). I didn't go in thinking I would love a Rolex, but that one was really desirable and a great everyday kind of watch. 3. IWC Portofino hand-wound - that watch is just really classy and haven't owned a hand-wound watch before.
I seem to have more grails than I thought. I'm a sucker for vintage chronos, so here are a few that would be joining the collection: - Universal Geneve Tri-Compax 'Nina Rindt,' or Evil Nina; also an 'Eric Clapton' or Evil Clapton - Heuer Autavia 'Jochen Rindt'
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These are all in the $20k+ club now (for pristine examples) so yes, I know I'd be spending large amounts on similar watches. I don't care, I like them. I think that's what 'F_You' money is for.
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Watch_Man
"I seem to have more grails than I thought." Man, if that isn't the truest statement I've heard in a while.
My brother will ask me time to time what I'm buying next. My usual response is a deep sigh as I realize how many grails I have.
Yes, I've looked at DH watches before. The vintage style does appeal- but if I have the money, I'll go for the original. (For example, my list would include a Super Compressor diver, a UG gold chrono, the Autavia(s), etc). At one point a while back I was looking at the DH 1939, I went for an Undone mecha-quartz chrono instead. The movement and (mostly) the customization won me over.
I guess my 'every day grail' would be a vintage Universal Geneve Tri-Compax with moon phase in gold. At that level I could hopefully acquire one in impeccable condition.
This one would truly require winning the lotto. Breguet Marine Équation Marchante 5887 (https://marine.breguet.com/) I generally don't go for over-complicated watches, but knowing what it does with a mechanical movement won me over. That, and the fact that it's Breguet's most sophisticated movement (at least in that line). Perpetual calendar, plus tourbillion, plus Equation of Time- WOW, even for Breguet. Doesn't hurt that it's gorgeous (at least in my book); I can see why it's been called "kinetic poetry." That usually would be marketing B.S., but in this case there's some justification. (or maybe I'm just swooning)
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The watch deserves more love then it gets.
Not just you, but the B&M looks more oval. Very similar indeed though
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Patek 5959 split second chronograph in 18K
Pseudozero
Excellent choice, split second chronograph's are incredible. I think I'd much prefer a rattrapante over a minute repeater or a tourbillon, or even a perpetual for that matter.
Holy grail (from Merriam-Webster, second definition): an object or goal that is sought after for its great significance
Is a grail something that is perpetually sought-after, maybe never to be had? Or is it the realistic end piece, or the one that curbs your collecting? Or is it a fluctuating desire-- the watch, whichever one at the top of your list at the moment-- the one that demands your attention most?
Is it more fun to keep a list of dreams or a checklist of things to be eventually acquired? Seems that both, yes, and all of the above are probably true, though everyone is different.
For me, I think a grail watch would be the watch that is the pinnacle of a category in my own collection. Finding the "last __dive, dress, sport, field, etc__ watch" is my ultimate grail.
I've got a few, Comex Sub and an Oman dialed Day-Date would be my Rolex Grails. But above all is the Vacheron Constantin 222:
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#thingsiwillneverown
Henry_L
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A couple of watches I'd like to have are the Seiko SBEX005 and the Orient WV0121EL divers. These are the biggest divers in each brands line-up, and I think the most expensive of their current diver releases.
https://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/collections/en/prospex/SBEX005 http://www.watchuseek.com/seiko-prospex-hi-beat-marinemaster-pro-sbex005/
http://www.orient-watch.jp/product/category/item/?item_id=913&category_id=265
The Orient is big, the Seiko, ridiculously big.
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My grail is your daily driver :P
YanboWu
It's a good one.
I’d go with an A Lange flyback or one of these...
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Senorsneaky
The telemeter scale is a thing of beauty... Alpina used to make a wonderful vintage inspired Pilot's watch, and it was fairly affordable as well. https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-old-and-the-new-hands-on-with-the-alpina-130-heritage-pilot-chronograph-and-its-vintage-progenitor
Shame they discontinued the line.
Do you have a reference number for that Omega? It looks great!
Vincent.H
It’s part of their “museum” line. Ref# 516.53.38.50.01.001
Blancpain L-Evolution Flyback Chronograph
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I have to get the Louis Moinet Jurassic Watch. The dial is absolutely wonderful.
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Glashutte Original Senator Panorama Date (and I'd even settle for an Observer)

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where do i begin, but one the short list is the of the ultra rare but super cool Gerald Genta Mickey Mouse Watches, short description and one for sale currently at the bargain low price (used) 35,000 dollars This particularly very rare model is the Mickey Fantasy 2 Bi-retro watch. Made in an all titanium case and held on a black rubber strap with matching folding clasp. It is fitted with the highly complicated Manufacture caliber GG7722 mechanical self-winding movement, with bi-retrograde minutes, digital jump hour and retrograde date functions again if had zeroes to burn, would love a 'novelty' slot ocupado by one these-os

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https://www.finewatchbank.com/product/gerald-genta-bspy80/
The Patek Philippe 5712
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mdeora
I've always loved the Nautilus too!
I've constantly been flip flopping on whether I like the Nautilus or the Royal Oak more. I guess if I had a billion dollars the choice would be easy (BOTH).
Vincent.H
Amen
I wear it every day and it just got a new band!!
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Fejus
Can't go wrong there!
Well, I've got my reachable grail but here's my (unreachable) holy grail. ALS Triple Split, seen on SIHH 2018.
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GES11T
Jumped right to to the top of your short list, eh?
GES11T
I have to second this one. The triple-split movement is incredible, and ALS's pieces are just bonkers to look at. (The backs are almost prettier than the front.) This would be my second grail, given unlimited funds.
If we're talking billion dollar lottery, money no object, there would clearly be multiple watches purchased. There would be the obligatory watches from Rolex, Breitling, and Omega that are current wants, and there would be a classic Patek and perhaps a VC. But the one that would be unique and special to me is the RGM Caliber 20 that I held in September. American made watch, custom in house movement. To have a true, modern, American made (in Lancaster, PA) luxury watch on my wrist would give me great joy. And I would go to the factory where it was made to buy it.
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Actually to me this watch was more impressive in person than in my pictures. At $20K for the watch, it damn well better be impressive.
PetrosD
Now I like that watch.
I’ve been pretty fortunate to have acquired my wants, but if I do have a grail, I’d go vintage, and look for a Rolex 1665 Double Red Sea Dweller Mk.II
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AND a Rolex 8171 Moonphase Triple Calendar
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Needless to say, I would have an absolute field day at Wanna Buy a Watch on Melrose.
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StainlessOnly
That Rolex Moonphase is a beauty.
StainlessOnly
Nice choices D, for a vintage Rolex I would choose a GMT 6542 Pepsi with Bakelite Bezel.
I don't have a grail. However, if money was of no concern, I wouldn't mind a Grand Seiko SBGD201.
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Yes! The passion of the people who makes these watches is what makes me even consider, albeit only in a hypothetical situation, paying so much for a watch. As many of our generation, I grew up pretty much idolizing Bruce Lee and everything martial arts. Bushido is definitely a mainstay of that world, and is embedded somewhere deep inside me. When watching the Hodinkee shorts, it was as if I could feel them finding their purpose by adhering to that code. It is as if the watch is constructed as an exercise in following the "way." Maybe I am imagining things, but that is how I feel.
I think GS is working towards removing the "cheap" stigma.
Asheikm
Oh, for sure. I think as Credor gains popularity it will only help Seiko's reputation in the West.
A Speedmaster Ultraman or a Vintage Carerra - too many beautiful variations to pick one. IMO the two best chronos ever made.
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Since I've already cheated and named two, I'll pick a break the bank one - Patek 5170G white gold/dial. Super slim, 39mm, in house hand wound chrono.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/introducing-the-patek-philippe-5170g-todays-patek-chrono-now-available-in-white-gold-live-pics-pricing
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Vintage1982Benz
I'd be very tempted by a Vacheron, too, if I had unlimited cash.
Vintage1982Benz
All good picks, all good picks. I think everyone here would be tempted by a laundry list of watches with unlimited cash!
I know for a fact my collection would probably balloon in size within that first week.
Super nice watch.
My grail watch is the Breguet Marine 5887.
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Guydude
I was so lucky to hold one of these in person.
Breguet is (I feel) too often underrated and forgotten when people discuss amazing brands--not only for what they're doing now but for what Breguet did for watchmaking as a whole.
Vincent.H
Ooooo, I am jealous. And yeah Breguet is super underrated. I think it might be due to the subtlety of their watches.
For me, it might be the ALS 1815 Chronograph in white gold with black dial.
Not a crazy high complication, but just look at it.
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I mean... just look at it.
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That's what dreams are made of. The list stretches on and on, but man, this watch...
Excuse me as I go buy a Powerball ticket.
Vincent.H
To me, it's funny that with ALS watches, people almost always include a movement pic. They have such beautiful movements that you can't help but appreciate them.
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