Mar 27, 20183441 views

"If I want a full-frame camera which one do I choose?"

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The comments that are typical of a comparison is the same as the audiophile comments. It's ALL about specs with these guys . Let's just say that the proof is in the pudding. It's the user's experience with what camera is the best for their usage. If you are listening to the constant complaints that Canon is behind on the technology specification front, you will be subjected to a host of reasons that the Canon camera's aren't keeping up with the other brands, so they proclaim Canon as "junk". A comparison of a couple specification differences is proof enough for them that the Canon sucks based on these (all but) meaningless specifications, so you will be confused as to why Canon is the leading brand of camera's in the world. An audiophile amplifier that has great specs can sound horrible, but the advertised specifications are looking good, so people fall for this ploy to believe that specs mean everything. They will buy a $200 AVR and claim that it sounds much better than that "POS" McIntosh that has a single spec that is not impressive, and that's all the proof they need to "prove" their case. It's the same thing with cameras. The Canon camera's are sometime lacking in a certain specification (on a spec sheet) by a minimal margin over a competitor, but it will capture over 90% of the images taken as "keepers" over one of the competitors that only gets 75% of attempted captures to be keepers. Sony's images look great on paper, specification wise, yet the colors are muted and don't have that pop that the Canon's images have, added to the fact that the keeper rate is way lower than the Canon, so you end up missing a lot of shots that the Canon captured, and one of those missed captures can, and will, make or break the photo shoot. That is just a fact. Not to sound preferential to Mr Northrup here, but Tony Northrup made a comparison of the Canon 6D Mk II when it first came out that was leading you to believe that it was a total POS, based on a 100 ISO image that looks substandard on a spec sheet to some competing companies comparable cameras. In a future review, he had to apologize for making the 6D Mk II look bad, when in fact it is his favorite model now. The reason? It actually provides him with much more satisfaction as an overall package as a usable camera, with stunning results. This is typical of some of these reviewers who are just hell bent on comparing specifications when reviewing camera bodies. You cannot tell what a camera will do in the hands of a competent photographer until you use it, and share/compare the results. The "One liner" commenters who like to say that "Canon blows", or "Sony is king", are just blowing smoke. All of the current camera's have strengths and weaknesses, but they all are capable of taking great captures (or they would't be marketed as such). With Canon being the number one manufacturer of digital cameras today (without mentioning that they have just entered into the full sized mirrorless digital camera bodies about a month ago) and the fact that they have the largest selection of great glass (that would be lenses), the Canon lineup of digital cameras cannot be called substandard with any kind of responsibility. It is just a revelation of a commenters naivite to claim that some other company has a better overall lineup. The sales numbers show that there are plenty of brands of digital cameras out there today, but people are buying Canon cameras more than any other brand. The latest smear is that the Sony (mirrorless) cameras are spanking Canon camera technology, but that is amiss of the fact that Canon has just introduced their first mirrorless full frame body, so it's an apples to oranges comparison up until now. The Sony mirrorless full frame cameras produce excellent images, color technology aside (Canon still has better color management than Sony), but Canon hasn't even entered into that market until very recently, so to claim that Sony is better than Canon is just plain ignoring the facts about the equal comparison of brands in that particular arena. Just give Canon a chance, and they will no doubt put up very competitive mirrorless full frame cameras along with the myriad of other camera bodies they currently produce. The fact that the Canon is the top seller speaks volumes as to it's place in the digital camera world.
Sony A7 all day.
Sony A7. It is compact, has a good ecosystem, and amazing sensor. I have a Sony A6300 and I definitely won't be switching to Canon or Nikon anytime soon.
Personally have the Sony a7 iii and am loving it
Nikon or Canon
Sony mirrorless is the future, just check the DXO mark, notice how many are in the top 20 https://www.dxomark.com/category/camera-reviews/
Nikon or Sony
Canon
Nikon and canon are heavyweight and hurt my neck after an hour of street photography. Get mirror less save your neck.
FOR VIDEO SONY A7III
Depends on your use case. Canon has arguably the best lenses of the three examples here. Canon also has weather sealing on their pro line cameras and lenses. Sony is only just catching up there. Nikon flagship bodies are a bit ahead of Canon in the sensor department. Nikon also has weather/dust sealing, and are pretty professionally oriented. The Sony stuff probably has the best sensors, but they still lag behind Nikon and Canon in usability. They simply arent mature in the DSLR-ish format yet (though technically it's mirrorless). If you are doing video, Sony or Canon. If you are doing landscape, wedding or portrait, Nikon or Sony. If you are doing sports, Canon.
The other considerations are lenses. Some cameras, such as the Fuji X mount line, are slim to non-existent on specialty lenses like macro and tilt shift. Canon on the other hand probably has the widest range of lenses.
I would actually recommend a A7RII, just because the price difference is pretty big, and the quality is almost the same (almost, keyword :p). Do you guys agree? ps: I bought a Sony A7RII after the launch of the A7III due to massive discounts, and I'm so happy :D (but I also spent a lot of $$$ on lens, oh well :D )
gidea
Oooor, A7SII - depending on your intended use. For me, having 42mp to crop from is a big deal, and in low light the camera is awesome! https://www.cinema5d.com/sony-a7s-ii-vs-a7r-ii-test-which-one/
The Sony cameras are - in my and many of my photographer-friend's opinions - the best full-frame on the market right now. They offer great structured software, great sensors, outstanding build quality that often feels much more expensive than the quality of canon and Nikon cameras. I would recommend you the Sony for sure!
MrGreat
I've actually heard more than one photog complain about muddy colors. I suppose if you are used to Canon's colors the Sony ones may be more muted. Also heard a lot of complaints about the usability of Sony vs Canon and Nikon. That there is more menu diving and a less intuitive experience. That said, Sony or Fuji is building my next camera. Canon seems content to rest on it's laurels.
Sony A7iii its really popular
yes
A7 III. Right? Am I right??? :D
A7iii
If you can wait, wait until next year. Later this year, both Canon and Nikon are expected to unveil their respective answers to Sony's popular mirrorless cameras. It'll be very interesting to see what they produce.
Sony A73
Nikon, Nikon, Nikon!
I'd personally go with the Sony. I recently switched from Canon to Sony mainly due to the form factor of the Sony. Honestly either one of these cameras will be great and nobody will be able to tell the difference between the photos taken on one instead of the others. It really comes down to personal preference.
I'd recommend Nikon. The 810 and 850 in particular have amazing sensors and its simply a pleasure to shoot on. (I've used pretty much all brands with the exception of lumix)
Why is Nikon better?
In the long run the Nikon is a better camera for professional photography. But if you just want some good photos than the other two will work!!
If you want an actual quality photograph, you will shoot with Canon. That being said canon does not overheat like sony does. Canon and nikon can use every lens with an adapter. Also if you enjoy messing around with menus rather than shooting than the a7 is for you. Also sony lens are made by zeiss that being said, you will be paying over the amount of a native lens for Canon and Nikon. Also more third party products that actually work for Canon and Nikon, thatbis duebto the fact of a7 being newer.
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Senpai76
You must be joking. Recent Canons have been garbage in terms of image quality.
monopod
I wouldn't say garbage, but it's true that Canon appears to be determined to put out yesterday's tech and for some time now. Both Nikon and Canon now finally see Sony as a legitimate threat so it'll be very interesting to see what their responses are in the next 12 months.
Sony, because you can use just about any lens made by anyone with the right adapter. The Sony is by far an easier camera to handle as it's quite a bit smaller. As far as battery life, extra batteries are cheap.
bugeyed
Sure you can use lenses with an adapter, but AF often suffers. Also raw conversion can be a little weird when you mix brands. Its really only worth doing if you already own an extensive locker of Canon L series, Leica or Nikkor.
Nikon for it's sensor and ecosystem. Sony body is lighter, lenses are heavier so it's a wash. There are more lenses for Nikon.
FJamming
probably worth noting the d850's sensor is made by sony :D
Sony, it's lighter more compact and if its the A7RIII I believe the battery life isn't bad and overall is a great camera.
Nikon D850 or Sony A7RIII (I have both). But NOT Sony A7II or A7RII(get rid of it as soon as III came out). IMHO, prior to mark III Sony A7 models have too many bugs, low battery life and sub par to Nikon D750(upgraded to D850).
PawPawDog
agreed, a lot of old information being regurgitated around here, the 3rd gen alphas put everything else to bed with the exception of the D850, which is more or less on par w/ the sonys (hint: it has a Sony sensor). If you do your due diligence and aren't locked into an existing ecosystem, Sony comes out on top pretty cleanly. It's weird because nothing has been so clear-cut for years, but here we are. Of course, Canon has finally decided to stop resting on its veteran laurels and build a decent mirrorless system, so we'll see what they come up with in the near future.
5D Mk iv