Aug 17, 2016

thoughts on gaming vs. normal headphones

Hi peeps
I'm thinking about buying new headphones, and did some research. Quickly I came to the conclusion that normal headphones are better. What do you think about it?
And do you have a recommendation on which headphones to buy?
-not too expensive (I can't spend over 200 on it)
-mic is handy, but I can buy that apart too
thanks in advance :)
ps: sorry for bad english :s

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Yes. Stop gaming; get normal.
idk if anyone has said it yet but AD700x. your probably going to have to put a rubber band on them but so far the best soundstage which as you should know is great for gaming. I can accurately tell the position of a player just by sound, that is if the game had good audio positioning.
regret getting it, too tinny; guess it depends on the game
although i still use them for the great soundstage I kind of wish I got the AKG K701 instead when they were 150 now theyre 200 (got the 700x for the same price, theyre 100 now).
I agree about how some headphones with great soundstage enhances the experience. But games these days are programmed with exaggerated sound effects in terms of positioning to work with any headphone. I use earbuds hooked to an amp for gaming. Although the soundstage is not wide but it's enough to make out where stuff are. Although open headphones have better spatial performance, I do find explosions underwhelming.

Perhaps if anyone can give a recommendation for a headphone with a balance of soundstage and impactful bass, I'd switch.
k553 pro with brainwaves earpads, bass is not thumping but its not dead either. IMO its a great balance providing just enough umph. then thats my opinion
Best gaming headsets for 200 dollars is the Monolith M560 Planars from Monoprice they are easy as crap to drive you just need a basic amp if you need one at all . You want to hear foot steps these are the all around king for music,movies, and games.
I don't have any experience with these but I highly doubt they are properly driven without an amp. Planars are always power hogs to get the best sound out of them. even with conventional drivers I believe you start seeing benefits around 40 ohm especially with closed back.
Well these are easy to drive i run them on 0 gain on my micca origen+ and i run them on low gain with my O2 amp easily. And if you are comparing these to the mark 3s dont those stupid things are just inefficient and take too much power to run them for what you get.
Usually these kinds of threads make me cringe, and rightfully so for the stuff people recommend. But here’s my two cents: Stop reading anything here that doesn’t have soundstage as a factor. Natural soundstage with an open-back headphone is the most vital thing you could use in most FPS games. Assuming you’re going to be playing something like PUBG, CS:GO, Fortnite or anything of the sort, you’re going to need some headphones that have great width, depth, soundstage and imaging.
The best option that I’ve come to for budget (and even non-budget for people that consider this high-end for choices in headphones, even though it’s really not), are the AD series from AudioTechnica.

YUCK, AUDIOTECHNICA, RIGHT? Wrong. AD series are some of the most accurate headphones (sub $300 I‘d say) you can get for imaging and soundstage + detailed highs and mids. iirc, the higher you go up the better soundstage, vocal presence, and general neutral frequency. I’d recommend these three for you:
AD700X + Modmic (mute switch and newer version): $172
AD900X + Modmic (non mute switch, older version): $198 (best bet)
AD900X + Modmic (mute switch and newer version): $218

The newer Modmic sounds better, by the way, as the old one is generally more nasally and doesn’t have as good of a freq response, plus the mute switch for convenience.

For gaming, you can’t beat these. They’re also pretty good for music if you want accuracy, but I wouldn’t find these enjoyable for listening to music since they’re just too bass-lite for me. Amazon prices below as of 10/27/17.

If you’re doing any other type of gaming (non-shooters) by the way, forget everything I just said and just get something like SHP9500 with a V-Moda since you don’t need spatial positioning.

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It is compatible, since you don't have high impedance and you can get a y-split -> 4 Pole 3.5 mm converter that will make it work with the PS4 input on your controller. Just don't expect as much as performance as you would on PC, but it'll still be exceptional since you're getting naturally better headphones with open-back headphones and accuracy unlike other most other open-backs in the price range, too.

Here's a link of the adapter that's suggested:
As long as you buy a Y adapter for the controller, yes
Philips SHP9500 with a Vmoda Boom mic. $80 total

5 stars > %80
I bought this headset for light gaming, and then got some remote jobs so I've ended up using it mostly for work. I use it 8+ hours a day for audio meetings 2-6 people at a time, is super comfortable (I forget that I'm wearing off calls), and the mic has very good sound localization. The earpads are soft and comfortable. The top is padded and comfortable. The cable is braided and *long*, so i can pace around the room when tired of sitting.

A slight con for me is the blue light can't be turned off.

I generally use audiophile headphones with a solid DAC.

If your doing tourneys then i highly recommend the Direct Sound Ex29 plus is my personal recommendation. They isolate noise really well and that is huge at tournament time.
I would think for gaming where source/position is so critical to survival and winning, these would be the game:
In the past, "gaming" attached to a product meant "let's slap on some LED lights, some slick graphics and sell cheaply made shit to fools." e.g. Razer keyboards with crappy Kailh mechanical switches.

Less true these days as some products with "gaming" on them are very good- many mice, for instance.
Still, it's a good practice to look at anything sold as "gaming" from a critical perspective. Ask what the "gaming" features are, and if these features are just buzzwords or acronyms rather than things that have been engineered across the industry for years, you're probably better off avoiding it.

Headsets specifically? Gaming versions are probably overpriced, worse preforming alternatives to a good quality headphone coupled with an Antlion Modmic.

Maybe inexpensive Senns (HD471, 569s) plus a Modmic.
A great in-depth post on the subject. Worth a read.
Get an semi or fully open back regular headphone. I have no idea about the mic or whatever.
Gaming Headphone vs 'Normal' Heaphone comparison is difficult to do since they're made for almost entirely difference purposes. This comparison is furthermore troubled by posting it in an audiophile forum where 'Normal' consumer headphones are mostly never part of the conversation. That said, I'm going to continue this with the assumption that by 'Normal' you mean high-end.

If all you're doing is gaming, then gaming headphones are quite good. They serve the purpose of outputting sound with an emphasis on three dimensional imaging with assistance from some form of software or hardware digital signal processing (DSP). DSP is what gives you your perceivable, but ultimately fake 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound. As far as the ability to accurately image and resolve sound, gaming headphones leave a lot to be desired for the most part but it seems some gaming manufacturers are starting to take this into consideration.

Once your concern moves towards having a more universal set of headphones that are good for gaming and also good for critical music listening, the clear choice is what you would call 'Normal' headphones. There's a problem though. There are a ton of normal headphones that are not worth the money and are mostly gimmicky. That lot of gimmicky, crappy headphones is narrowed down to mostly good ones, once you move closer to audiophile class headphones. (This isn't to say that there are no gimmicks and lies in the audiophile world, but for the most part, the price is justified by the technology and the construction of higher-end headphones)

So yes. I would agree normal headphones are better, but which normal ones would you buy?

At the very bottom of the threshold, I would recommend the Koss Porta Pro. They don't look like much, they don't const much either, but they perform well and come with a built-in microphone. I would akin their sound to Beats headphones with a lot of improvements in the clarity of the highs, the presentation of its sound stage, and its bass response. They're super light which is great for gaming, and the microphone is clear as day. (The sound can get stuffy sometimes. It's the only negative and the main factor to comparing them to Beats headphones since those are muffled, muddy, and stuffy ALWAYS)

For a little bit more money, you can grab a pair of Fostex T40RP mk3 . These are great for gaming and sound awesome too. No mic, but that's easily fixed with a set of SONY ECM-CS3 or V-Moda Boom mic.

My favorite gaming headphones are the Philips Fidelio X2. To be honest, I have pairs of headphones that are sub $3k, but I always go back to my X2 headphones since they sound so great for all listening situations including gaming. I consider these my universal headphones and use them a lot for gaming and movies. I pair it with V-Moda Boom Mic. <-- This would be my ultimate recommendation.

Save a little bit more money and get these. Trust, fam.