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wajash

Aug 28, 2016

I'd like to see G Shock Rangemaster Master of G.

ElDizzablo

Aug 29, 2016

wajashWow ....I had to Google to understand this model....that's alot of plastic and not alot of appreciation value built in. A very risky gamble to collect these Casio g-shocks unless you know the celebrity behind their endorsement will hold its value up and or the mechanism is revolutionary enough to warrant appreciation value or if it is the first example of its kind or very limited run. "New Tech" watches are very very risky investments for collecting unless you really really know your trends or know a hot movie or star will feature/endorse them. I know only a few collector's of Casio....but they are more classic models and kept pristine unused conditions and they still don't have a consistent $$ appreciation value; very radical fluctuations year to year. They mostly collect for the love of the brand they wore as a youth.

wajash

Aug 29, 2016

ElDizzabloI don't care about a celebrity endorsement, or a movie it was featured in, I don't buy watches based on a trend. I want the watch to wear, daily. I don't collect watches, I use them, as tools. I love the feel of the g shock in my day to day, and they are tough as nails.

ElDizzablo

Aug 30, 2016

wajashThat's cool too; really there are NO RULES to anyone's personal tastes. That would be wrong on too many levels. I was just remarking about the collecting side as an investor and purchaser for return on investment. There are key things I look to and focus on for an investment purchase and to end with something I can see myself wearing or most likely; selling in 5 to 10 years....hopefully in 2 to 3 years in the short fruition. Massdrop gives the economy-minded-investor an opportunity on hard to find or obtain collaboration items at a great value thus insuring or increasing the odds of getting in on a good growth piece. Alot of high tech is expensive on day one and worth nothing 2 years or 5 years later because the technology is mass duplicated in its line and easily available for many. High saturation of like model products with low investment of highly trained and apprenticed at a high level technical hand building ability usually means low desirability towards value increase. Machine building machines with just a few quality control Techs is just not a product I look at with any personal comfortable expertise to invest in. Just look at Rolex by mere name evokes timeless recognition of quality and superperlative hand built execution, luxury, and reptesentative of a right of passage as a professional or a personal life's landmark moment celebrated by such a purchase. Literally each watch leaves the factory perfect period. There is no such thing as off center anything or a blemish anywhere even in the guts where only Techs look. There is no such thing as an irregular Rolex as every tiny component is hand polished and hand fitted to perfect because the reputation is that you are buying perfection and they must deliver perfection. If it's not a rareified or semi-rareified technically built watch for example; it can be a dead investment. I tend to look at watches from a horologically significance in history....be it linked to mechanical execution without mass production means (hand built) or linked to a significant event or movie or celebrity figure. If I like a watch I like to step back from a watch and think on it and read about it and gleen any expertise towards its lasting investment appeal and the circumstances in which it could become a great investment vs the current climate in buyers of the piece (are they investors or e.d.c.) if shibby cool execution is all I wanted or cool looks or toughness in a sexy jacket.......I would not wear anything but my Android tungsten tourbillon.....it's a 200 meter sherman tank that scratches everything it glances it yet it can't be scratched by anything I come across daily like marble tops or stainless steel table tops.....it's meters and pips glows like demon eyes at night and it has a black chrome shine like an alien ufo.....and it is very very economical for a very genuine flying tourbillon. Like you; I look for what I like but; with the added mindfulness towards the investment angle.

Sailing40

Sep 3, 2016

ElDizzabloFirst, you need to have knowledge about the 'high tech' your describing, using generic applications of what high tech means to you may not apply to others. Casio, a watch maker I once found to be offering junk and gimmick's to entice people to buy their watches have now become the leader in scientific research and development applied to watches. Any manufacturer of watches who provides reception of time signals like our NIST National Institute of Standards isn't going to fall by the wayside because their technology has become 'old'. Now Casio also offers watches that not only receives these NIST signals, currently worldwide, but they have taken the lead in also providing 'GPS' and this means that wherever you are on this planet you'll know the exact time and no batteries required. I've spent over 40 years as an engineer, the last 20 in nuclear research. I traveled way too often and always had to change my watch to the current time wherever I happened to be, and found that having a battery operated watch wasn't going to work to my schedule. I hated it when the battery would die right at a time and place there wasn't any available batteries anywhere for my watch and I just had to live with a dead watch. Today, we don't have to concern ourselves with such trivial consequences because Casio lead the way and Citizen, Seiko and others have followed suit. I did pay more than I wanted to, but believing that my watches were going to lose there value because of there high tech quality just isn't worth the sweat to be concerned about.

Justaway

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Sep 13, 2016

Sailing40If you are worried about accuracy, a thermo-compensated quartz is actually more reliable than a radio controlled watch. RC watches sound like a great idea until it doesn't work. Also, even with a solar powered watch you still need to change the battery after 10 years due to degradation of the battery itself. Also if you want a really high tech watch, check out the Seiko Spring Drive movement. It uses an electromagnetic break to slowly dissipate the energy in a wound spring. This is a movement that will truly never need a battery change and still keep time within 10 seconds per year. There is a integrated circuit in this movement which runs directly off of a micro-generator which feeds off of the spring unwinding, which in turn controls an electromagnetic break which controls the rate at which it unwinds. It's a engineer and watch appreciator's wet dream come true. But, if you don't want to break the bank and still get a high accuracy quartz watch (HAQs as they are referred to) the Swiss make some cheapish ones for around $350. Generally a HAQ uses a thermo-compensated quartz movement which has an integrated circuit which measures the temperature to adjust the internal register to + or - how many quartz oscillations it needs to count in order to advance time by one second. Otherwise, without the temperature feedback loop, a quartz crystal's oscillation rate is quite dependent on temperature, and generally loses or gains up to a minute a month depending on temperature conditions. With thermo-compensation, a quartz movement will at most gain or lose 10 seconds per year. Bulova has also developed an alternative to thermo-compensated quartz with their Precisionist movement. This movement oscillates at 262 kHz instead of the usual 32 kHz. The vibration mode is also different in their quartz crystal as it is a torsional vibration mode instead of translation. Also the quartz crystal has 3 prongs instead of 2 of a regular quartz crystal. So in my opinion the truly technologically advanced and reliable watches are thermo-compensated quartz and Bulova's Precisionist movements, not RC watches since they depend on an outside source for timekeeping, which is not reliable everywhere. Well, actually there is Spring Drive as well but they are not affordable, at least not for me.. yet ;)

Chazman1946

Sep 13, 2016

JustawayI have a Bulova UHF Military watch I picked up for less then $100. I initially set it over three months ago, and in that time it has only gained +1 second.

Sailing40

Sep 14, 2016

JustawayHey Justaway, I'm still taking Tylenol to get rid of the headache I got trying to stay up with all your information, whew! Well, I do agree that there's a lot of excellent watches out there that are pretty close to Casio's MRG's. I recently bought 5 Seiko's Prospex models because they look so great, in fact I ware them as often as I do Citizen's Nighthawk and other aviation theme watches. The 'ONE' advantage of my selecting the Casio's MRG's and MTG's wasn't just because there solar powered or that they can now receive 'GPS' in addition to the NIST signals, it's their "G-Shock" capability of taking a unintended hit, strike, drop etc. etc. Note, all the others 'non Casio' watches that I showed on this site had a statement in their owners manual "Caution" when wearing this watch not to bump or hit it as it may cause a malfunction. Some people may not see this as a major issue because they don't ware their watches while engaging in activities that place their watches at risk. I don't disagree with this cautionary tactic of just don't ware it while playing football, boxing or any activity where your watch could very well get damaged. My job required me to be a hands on engineer while working for 2 government agencies, a permanent position at one and loaned out to another newly created one as the result of 9-11. I was in New York on 9-11 on business with my permanent government agency and as a result of my experience there the newly formed agency selected me to take part in what was known as "The First Line of Defense". I'm still obligated to my security clearance and unable to disclose anything beyond this. However, the new position required a lot of travel, and I can't begin to explain how much travel I was required to do, but I got my airline's frequent flier's 100,000 miles in less than a year. I did get one perk I didn't have to disclose to the government, first class seating on any aircraft that provided a first class section.
Forgive my copying Casio's information on their MRG's, and this also applies to their MTG's that came on 2 of their available models. I haven't seen any other watch manufacturer offer this type of time keeping and protection on any of their watches...
The MRG-G1000 is the first watch of its kind to incorporate shock resistant construction and GPS HYBRID WAVE CEPTOR capability into a full-metal case, providing the wearer with accurate timekeeping no matter where in the world he happens to be. A new “clad guard structure” now makes it possible to enjoy both easy crown operation and durability in a smaller configuration. The current time in two different time zones can be viewed simultaneously, and Super Illuminator display illumination ensures that information is always easy to read. All of this plus a dual-hardened, Sallaz-polished finish, sapphire crystal with non-reflective coating, and more makes the MRG-G1000 as elegant as it is functional.
GPS HYBRID WAVE CEPTOR Global Positioning System + Radio-controlled (Multi Band 6) This hybrid system ensures accurate timekeeping virtually anywhere your travels take you. Even summer time and standard time switching is performed automatically as required based on acquired information.
MULTIBAND 6 MULTIBAND 6 allows reception of time calibration signals from one of six transmitters around the globe : Germany, The United Kingdom, The United States, China, and Japan (two transmitters).
Clad Guard Structure This new structure incorporates the crown and buttons, and guard parts that protect them into a single unit for improved shock resistance. This structure also eliminates parts required in previous designs, for a slimmer, more elegant case. The head covers of parts that are particularly sensitive to impact are coated internally with αGEL®* to cushion them from shock. * αGEL® is a material with silicone as its main component and that features superior vibration-absorption capabilities. * αGEL® is a registered trademark of Taica Corporation in Japan, the United States and other countries.

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wajash

Mar 20, 2017

Sailing40I know this thread has been quiet for a while but I have since obtained the watch I desired in the OP. Though it's not a Bulova or Rolex and it's a Casio....gasp, this thing is tough as nails. I work as Paramedic for a fairly busy 911 service and this watch has performed in every situation I've had it in, mud, rain, blood, ice, fire, gasoline, oils and anything else that it's been exposed to has not even blemished it. My comment was because I wanted this watch, I ended up buying it after saving a little money and couldn't be happier with my purchase. The altimeter seems to be fairly accurate, thermometer is accurate when removed from the wrist, the compass is within 2-5* and functions well as getting a quick bearing. I would give this watch 4 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. The reason for the loss of one star is that is could be a little easier to operate, scrolling through the different functions can be cumbersome some times.

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