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luneth
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Apr 21, 2017
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hmmm i think "GMK Laser" sounds better than "GMK Laserpunk" if you're changing the name
Apr 21, 2017
MiTo
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Apr 21, 2017
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lunethThat's open for debate, I just thought that Laserpunk would be a nice combination of the words Laser (80's) and Punk (Cyberpunk) which are the two background roots of this project... What do you think?
Apr 21, 2017
luneth
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Apr 21, 2017
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MiToJust because you can combine words doesn't mean you should. Here goes my thoughts: 1. I think Laserpunk sounds kinda kitchy whereas just laser is cleaner and more professional, while still being indicative of the right imagery 2. Laserpunk is too close to this https://lazerpunk.bandcamp.com/album/nightcrawler 3. Most importantly, you're playing a dangerous game here with all the aesthetic influences on this design, and with the upcoming other stuff, I think its important to have a clear vision in mind. It seemed to me this was first and foremost an 80s electronic aesthetic, but at this point you're referencing so much stuff its hard to know exactly what you're going for. Aesthetics and references I can identify in this are (there are references I don't get): Back to the Future, Space Invaders, Pacman, the year '88?, Tron, general 80s cyber stuff, and by extension Kung Fury and current throwback media, Vaporwave, Vanilla - Origin? that one doesnt make much sense , etc. etc.
Anyway theres a lot going on here, and I love it, but I would push for some more visual consistency and a clearer idea of the aesthetic. To me, calling it "Laserpunk" kinda muddles the identity of this set.
Apr 21, 2017
MiTo
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lunethYou made a good point bringing up this band and to me it's enough reason to keep the name as Laser (like it previously was). I'm gonna edit to the original name back again.
But your 3rd point read a bit confusing, feel free to elaborate more on this if you can -
First you said that in your perception this project was conceived based on an 80's electronic aesthetic, which is exactly what we are doing. Then, you proceeded to mention Back to the Future, Space Invaders, Pacman, '88, Tron, cyber things and Kung Fury. All of these references are 80's related in my opinion, so what's the confusion? I understand that we should not exaggerate by over-working the concept, but do you think I'm going too far with these legit 80's references? What you wrote was a bit confusing (bear in mind I'm not a native speaker) so if you could rephrase what you're thinking I'd definitely appreciate it! Thanks a lot for the input and criticism, keep it coming mate.
Apr 21, 2017
ArchDill
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Apr 21, 2017
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MiToI like Laserpunk.
Apr 21, 2017
MiTo
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ArchDillI think it's funny too, the problem is that there's a band with this name (and they use the same concept in their music). We are doing a retrowave keyset and they make retrowave music. We could mislead people into thinking that we are making a keycap set for (after) the band...
Apr 21, 2017
ArchDill
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Apr 21, 2017
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MiToThe bands name is Lazerpunk with a "Z" if that changes anything.

EDIT: Disregard. There are more bands with that name..
Apr 21, 2017
luneth
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Apr 21, 2017
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MiToIm happy to expand, I'll try my best to not be confusing.
What is the most inconsistent to me is that you are referencing 1. stuff from the 80s, and 2. contemporary stuff that is referencing the 80s. Referencing something that references the 80s doesn't seem quite cyberpunk. That isn't being cyberpunk, that is referencing *other things that are cyberpunk*.
But also that argument is misusing "cyberpunk". AFAIK "cyberpunk" started with books and its aesthetic is more of a "futuristic dystopia", often with a noir vibe like Blade Runner. Kung Fury, Vaporwave and other recent 80s revival is not quite cyberpunk.
Cyberpunk came from the 80s, Space Invaders came from the 80s ('78 technically), but space invaders is NOT present in cyberpunk style.
So I guess my 1st complaint with Laserpunk was a misuse of Cyberpunk as a label for an 80's revival style.
My 2nd point was, it is not consistent to both reference 80's and 80's revival. So the Vanilla Origin novelty doesn't make much sense. Also I don't understand the DEX and 011 novelties so I can't speak on those.
My 3rd point is that SpaceInvaders/PacMan are from the time period and reference arcade and 80's aesthetic, but the aesthetics/color-scheme of the games themselves don't quite match the blue/purple color scheme aesthetic of the keyset. I think by referencing too many things you are trying to be too broad with the aesthetic. By contrast Jukebox, another time-period keyset, has novelties that are more consistent in style
Apr 21, 2017
MiTo
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lunethPerfect explanation and it makes sense. My mistake was not showing to you the current version of the keyset, which has the 80's and Cyberpunk references clearly divided. I want people who enjoy 80's aesthetics to enjoy this keyset, with good references and accurate colors. I also want cyberpunk fans to enjoy this keyset, with accurate references and interesting designs.
The novelties you see here are outdated, in the current version (and keycap kit mockup distribution) you'll be able to understand what I'm talking about more clearly.
Give me a couple more hours, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Apr 21, 2017
luneth
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MiToYay I'm so excited! Hopefully I'm not still broke when it drops
Apr 21, 2017
MiTo
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ArchDillYes, we are good with Laser though... A more general name, people already know what it is and let's be honest the word LASER reads more professional than LASERPUNK which is kinda "edgy" to be honest.
Apr 21, 2017
luneth
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Apr 21, 2017
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MiToAlso, I know that header image was easy to generate ;). 3 fonts is a bit much they aren't quite fitting for the 80s and don't go together super well. The color on "Mitos" is too pink and the font looks more 60s than 80s. I know you've got an update coming, but if you don't have a different header image I'd be happy to draw something up in Illustrator and see if you like it.
Apr 21, 2017
MiTo
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lunethIt was done on PhotoFunia, the website responsible for those 80's memes generator. Very cool people, they gave me permission to use the banner for commercial purposes and the guy loved the Laser project. I think it's pretty cool, if you think you can do better feel free to give it a try!
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Apr 21, 2017
JustCallMeCrash
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Apr 25, 2017
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lunethI suggest "Outrun" - it's the new-retro-wave genre that has really embraced this aesthetic.
Apr 25, 2017
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