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GUTB
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Feb 26, 2017
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Reading through this thread and looking at the images I get the strong impression that most younger vinyl owners are doing it just because they think it's cool rather than trying to setup serious analog listening stations. I don't want to get into vinyl because of the extreme cost of doing it right and achieving a level of sound quality I would find worthwhile.
livingspeedbump
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Feb 27, 2017
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GUTBHm. Well, for starters I don't see anything at all wrong with doing it for whatever personal reason you want. If you think it's cool, great! (It's an expensive hobby to do just for that!). Many people I know collect vinyl because listening to a record is a "thing." It is an event. It is no longer the instant gratification of bouncing around your iTunes library, but never finishing a song. Spinning a record is a way to actively put effort into the act of listening to music. Some people really miss the days when cover art mattered, and buy records to enjoy the art. Others buy them out of nostalgia. Again, all great reasons. I'm not in any position to judge a person on their personal reasons for getting into vinyl, or any hobby for that matter?
Doing it for a pure analog listening experience is just one more way or reason to vinyl. And often I have to just chuckle at people that get so picky about "analog only" because half of the albums they are listening to are not recorded to tape, they are just dumped from Pro Tools onto the vinyl lathe. It is nearly impossible to find analog only these days. Minus a few lone wolf studios like Welcome to 1979 and Electrical Audio, its really hard to find people dedicated to analog only recording. Even then a lot of stuff gets processed with digital verb or delays, or touches a computer somewhere in the process.
As a former record store owner, I can say that I was glad just to see that people cared enough, for whatever reason, to come in a spend money on music. When it can be obtained for free so easily today, its nice to see people paying for music to enjoy it in any way they want.
As an audio engineer that specializes in analog recording, for someone wanting the "end all analog experience" 2" tape is the only way to go, not vinyl. But at the end of the day I'm no snob about my listening, I just enjoy the music, and the minute differences that come with listening to different formats, in different locations, with different gear, is just part of the experience of music.
Doing it for a pure analog listening experience is just one more way or reason to vinyl. And often I have to just chuckle at people that get so picky about "analog only" because half of the albums they are listening to are not recorded to tape, they are just dumped from Pro Tools onto the vinyl lathe. It is nearly impossible to find analog only these days. Minus a few lone wolf studios like Welcome to 1979 and Electrical Audio, its really hard to find people dedicated to analog only recording. Even then a lot of stuff gets processed with digital verb or delays, or touches a computer somewhere in the process.
As a former record store owner, I can say that I was glad just to see that people cared enough, for whatever reason, to come in a spend money on music. When it can be obtained for free so easily today, its nice to see people paying for music to enjoy it in any way they want.
As an audio engineer that specializes in analog recording, for someone wanting the "end all analog experience" 2" tape is the only way to go, not vinyl. But at the end of the day I'm no snob about my listening, I just enjoy the music, and the minute differences that come with listening to different formats, in different locations, with different gear, is just part of the experience of music.
ElectronicVices
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Mar 1, 2017
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livingspeedbumpFantastic reply... hats off to you. The proper care and maintenance of a vinyl system and collection is my main inhibitor but I can't say I haven't spec'd out a vinyl rig on numerous occasions. If my folks hadn't sold their vinyl off in the very early 90's (a couple years before I was old enough to care) I would probably be deep in that rabbit hole now. A free backlog of Beach Boys, CCR, Stones, Led Zeppelin and various Motown records would've highly encouraged my mildly obsessive audio tendencies.
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ElectronicVicesThanks! I'd honestly first figure out what you want to use it for! For just nostalgia and enjoying those old family heirlooms you can easily get a cheap setup that won't break the bank, but will be solid and upgradeable in the future! Space can also be an issue for a lot of folks, but there have been quite a few new products lately that are great for saving space. The new Kanto YU4's and YU6's have built in phono-preamps (not sure if they have dropped here yet, would assume they will in the future), and there are plenty of decent little amps that you can pick up as well. I just know a turntable + receiver + speakers + all that storage for vinyl can be a lot of space for many folks.
ElectronicVices
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Mar 1, 2017
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livingspeedbumpOh no need for little amps... I run three separate amps (two of them monoblocks) for my home theater and hifi. In fact I use a Denon receiver for a preamp that includes a phono preamp if I just wanted to dip my toe in. I've previously spec'd out the following:
Project Debut Carbon Espirit
Vincent PHO-8
I still truly enjoy physical media for the artwork and experience of listening to an album from start to finish, Track order played a significant role in the pacing of older albums, with all the ability for custom playlists and album jumping today, track order seems to get less attention.
I still truly enjoy physical media for the artwork and experience of listening to an album from start to finish, Track order played a significant role in the pacing of older albums, with all the ability for custom playlists and album jumping today, track order seems to get less attention.
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ElectronicVicesI can speak highly of the Debut Esprit. I've had one for years in one of my setups now and really do enjoy it. Overall great performer and very nice tonearm.
And I tend to agree. I think for me just turning music into an active "thing" and forcing myself to just enjoy the album as it was intended, from start to finish, really is what draws me to listening to records the most.
And I tend to agree. I think for me just turning music into an active "thing" and forcing myself to just enjoy the album as it was intended, from start to finish, really is what draws me to listening to records the most.
ElectronicVices
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Mar 3, 2017
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livingspeedbumpWhat phono preamp do you employ with your turntable?
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Feb 6, 2018
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livingspeedbumpYES.
Listening to vinyl is a PREMEDITATED act, a deliberate behaviour directed toward actually LISTENING to the music.
Even the rituals associated with vinyl direct one to focus on the sounds; cleaning the record, storing it properly...so the sound is as clean and pure as you can achieve, it is the effort involved to hear what the artist created.
I still have my Teac open reel sound machine. Still use it. Man, the refurb cost me a bundle though.... but worth it. Biggest issue now is getting as much QUALITY analog onto my tape as I can.
I still have my Teac open reel sound machine. Still use it. Man, the refurb cost me a bundle though.... but worth it. Biggest issue now is getting as much QUALITY analog onto my tape as I can.
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