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I_am_SWU
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Oct 7, 2016
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Well, the issue with this is: It will start to get annoying searching for the professional stuff when all the mainstream and consumer stuff are mixed in with it. Amateur shoppers may also buy consumer stuff when what they want is professional products. Just something to consider there. I don't personally believe that Audiophile and 'Pro Audio' are the same thing. I simply don't understand why they are to be combined... :/
I_am_SWU
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Oct 8, 2016
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PixmoBut then I would counter by saying the "Pro Audio" gear doesn't necessarily sounds good. In fact Pro Audio gear doesn't have 'quality' as such, more so reliability and transparency. Consider it more of a 'true' mirror. But the main issue is the Pro gear getting messed up and mixed with the Audiophile category can be a little misleading and cause troubles. Fundamentally speaking pro gear is a separate category under the large branch of Audio reproduction products and instruments. ^_^
Pixmo
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Oct 8, 2016
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I_am_SWU"Pro Audio gear doesn't have 'quality' as such, more so reliability and transparency." So you're conceding the fact that Audiophile gear is more catered to the sound quality aspects of listening to music? I my self is not very knowledgeable in this area. So I'm genuinely interested to know which is better for me (aka. just listening to music).
I_am_SWU
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Oct 8, 2016
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PixmoWhat I was trying to express was that Pro gear doesn't contain much audio quality. Its value lies somewhere else (the reliability of the gear etc.); on the other hand, Audiophile equipment is supposed to sound exceptional when reproducing the sound ^_^ hence, the audio produced by that equipment may be EQed or 'tuned' during manufacturing. As a result professional users may be audiophile, but that applies more to consumption. If you're a professional producer than studio equipment have distinct qualities that may appear subtle but in effect, can 'ruin' the sound of a record (while in the recording process), while a high end piece from somewhere like Sennheiser may create a "better, more appealing" sound. So when you finally create a song that sounds good on professional systems, then that should translate well onto many Hi-Fi systems. I have gone and tried listening to some monitors and speakers and compared them to consumer products. The gap is rather large and very different. ^_^ I really appreciate being able to talk to you about different opinions, and I'm happy to hear someone else's viewpoint :)
Pixmo
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Oct 9, 2016
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I_am_SWUThanks for the lesson. It's an interesting topic to say the least. Do you have any tips on a nice set of headphones for someone like me who's just a newbie audiophile with no aspirations to become a producer? Would these be any good for example? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bravo-headphones-the-best-sound-at-the-best-price-audio#/
I_am_SWU
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Oct 9, 2016
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PixmoWell, I fully understand being trendy with something 'new', but my opinion as a producer is always reliability. So in my opinion, you're taking a big risk with something that's basically untrialled. When it comes to these products, you have to try them on yourself (hence, retail stores and specialist stores are still popular to the people who buy audio products). For this price tag, I can only say that you have so many reliable, consumer grade options available. Some examples would be Sennheiser Momentum (ver.2 came out) & V-Moda M100. These are all really well established brands known for their service, support etc. Other things like detachable cable, switchable earcups and build material are also important (cable for style and maintenence). But when I look at the Bravo headphones, I see a new design (I'm not against it) that isn't tested and a pricetag that seems to exclude better materials and maintenence options. I feel that the company forgot that a product isn't just about it's output/intended purpose (in this case, sound quality); instead it is a whole entity, an experience and investment to the end consumer, be it expensive or cheap. Now, after I did some reading, they say that the new drivers are more fool proof than the cone drivers. Well, the reality is, you never know if there was a manufacturing error in either cone or electrostatic technology. But in my experience, a driver that is thinner than a piece of plastic is probably more fragile than a tiny speaker cone in the typical headphone. I support innovation, but until I can hear this headphone at some retail stores or through a trial system, we are basically gambling our money hoping for something 'decent.' I understand that with my personality, some people may say "it's because of people like you that the industry doesn't progress. You don't take risks!" But I simply ask the question, "do we really need to progress this quickly? We're not fighting against aliens, we're only competing against ourselves!" Well, that's about it, if you want to buy these headphones, go ahead! I can't stop anyone from taking a chance, and if it pays off, you can be happy for yourself (tell me about it even ^_^). But I prefer something more solid, future-proof and established, so I will still pick my trusty cone based drivers.
paulhodgkinson
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Oct 17, 2016
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PixmoHey Pixmo,
Pro audio gear sounds neutral and should be reliable. It should sound neutral so the audio tech can add equalisation and effects to suit a room or style of music, for example. Also reliability is important. Imagine taking a set of headphones in to your work environment everyday... take them off, put them on, take them off... they have to be able to take some punishment sometimes.
On the other hand audiophile gear is tuned to enhance the sound of a recording. e.g. more bass, smoother highs, warmer mids. Audiophile gear is designed to suit the listener's taste. That's why it can be hard to select a set of headphones or speakers. It can depend on the style of music and listening conditions as well as what you expect to hear. Experience will help you hear the differences.
Listening to as many systems as you can and try to hear the differences in the highs, lows and mids.
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