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A DAC is a Digital-to-Analog Converter that takes all those 1's and 0's that make up digital audio files and converts it to an analog signal that can be amplified and played back by traditional speakers and headphones. DAC's are typically connected to a PC, CD Player or streaming box via USB, Optical, Coaxial or AES balanced connection. The DAC would then be connected to your headphone amp via RCA or XLR balanced outputs.
You can find many varieties of DAC's and I generally recommend focusing on the budget and feature set before worrying over chip implemented. I for one use my DAC for both headphones and my stereo. I also switch fairly regularly between headphone amps. I like DAC's with two or more outputs as it facilitates my listening habits. Schiit and Topping make good budget DAC's. If portability is needed Audioquest makes the Dragonfly Black/Red. For someone new to the experience I don't know if I could recommend you spend more than $500 "all in" for the amp/dac AIO or a stack with cables. I have personally used DAC's and headphone amps from Fiio, Emotiva, Schiit, Gustard, Teac, Cayin, Audioquest, MD O2.
My favorite chain would be the Teac UD-501>Cayin IHA-6>Focal Elex/HE500/T1 but I also get a ton of enjoyment out of the Dragonfly 1.2 (my cheapest combo). The Schiit Stack of the Modi2 Uber and either a Vali or a Magni (Magni being more versatile but lacking that tube charm) is a good deal for $250-$300. I personally wouldn't recommend going Multi-bit for anything less than the Gungnir but that's just me being overly cautious.
Nixima
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May 16, 2018
ElectronicVicesThanks for the reply man! I think i will go ahead and go with the Modi 2 Uber with the Vali 2. That leaves me with a grad total of $500 for the headphones and DAC+Amp. Not too shabby. I have a feeling once I get my first taste of Hi-Fi audio, I'm just going to get hooked and want to buy more headphones! haha. Also, any recommendations for a solid record player?
A community member
May 16, 2018
NiximaHi there
Nice choice and a great start to the world of ever lasting upgrades lol. I'm sure you will get some great fun out of that set up and maybe it could be something you have for a long time. You know I have been full circle in the headphones hobby starting modest and ending up with high end gear but now I'm back left with a hd600. The 6xx series are really great and in the end you probs won't need anything else really so enjoy them knowing they are top class headphones.
Nixima
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May 16, 2018
That's good to know that they are just about the best of the best! I really wanted to set myself up with a good foundation going into this so I can fully invest my interest. I also want my first set of audiophile grade headphones to be a meaningful pair so I'm glad I'm I decided to go with the HD 6XX because they seem to be very special. If it wasn't for the killer price that Massdrop has, I probably would have never considered them. I still see myself buying many different headphones as time goes on because I want to explore all of the different sound signatures out there and figure what equipment matches best according to genre. There are just so many possibilities running through my head as to what I can do and I couldn't be more excited! I'm also considering picking up a record player as well, but I'm on the fence because that's just another money pit to add on to whats already going to be an expensive habit haha.
NiximaThe HD6xx is a great buy, I've had the HD650 for the better part of a decade and it still get's head time. It is still one of if not THE best "session" can for me. It works with everything and I find it to be quite comfortable. On the turntable front a few options: 1) U-turn Orbit (spring for the Ortofon Blue) 2) Project Carbon DC or the upgraded Esprit Model 3) Rega Planar 1 or upgrade option to Planar 2
phoenixsong
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May 16, 2018
NiximaDo note that for vinyl the cartridge and phono box have a major impact on the sound as well
phoenixsongOn that front company's with some cheap-ish but decently performing phono pre's:
Cambridge Audio Pro-ject Emotiva Schiit Vincent (stretching the term cheap)
phoenixsong
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May 16, 2018
ElectronicVicesHow's the Rega Fono Mini A2D? Price-wise it seems attractive enough, though I haven't tried it :) Also their Fono MM Mk3
Nixima
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May 16, 2018
ElectronicVicesThanks I'll check them out!
Nixima
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May 16, 2018
ElectronicVicesWould it be okay to just get a table with the pre-amp built in?
phoenixsongDon't know much about the Rega outboard phono pre's... I am more familiar with their turntables.
phoenixsong
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May 16, 2018
NiximaWell, strictly speaking it would, although personally I'd like more freedom in swapping units and trying out different possible combinations :) Plus, usually the built-in pre amps are not the best
NiximaIf you just want to dip a toe in to vinyl I would say get a $100-$200 player with phono-pre built in. If you think you could really get "in" to vinyl down the road I say skip that step and go straight to separates. It offers much greater flexibility and I'm a bit of a proponent of separate devices vs. combined units in general when it comes to audio.
phoenixsong
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May 16, 2018
ElectronicVicesDitto that! :) However, looking at the prices of vinyl records over here (easily $30 a piece) I'd say either dive right in or not at all XD I hope it's different where you are
phoenixsongOh no, records are most certainly every bit as expensive here unless one catches a garage/estate sale with some gems. I've not personally taken the plunge but have helped numerous friends spec their systems over the years. I have enough expensive media addictions with UHD discs and Hi-Res/FLAC file purchases I don't need to add vinyl. More than happy to help my friends spend their money and enjoy the fruits of some research/experience.
Nixima
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May 16, 2018
ElectronicVicesLuckily for me i have an Aunt who has a MASSIVE vinyl collection spanning over 40 years. If it's a record from 60s, 70s, or 80s, chances are shes got it. That is unless its some really obscure artist. AND she's got copies of many of her records so I can start a decent vinyl collection for free. And if i do decide to go down that road with vinyl, I won't go crazy and get all my music on vinyl. That would be so much money. I would just buy my favorite records and keep a small stack around for when I'm in the mood for vinyl.
Nixima
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May 16, 2018
ElectronicVicesI have another question about DACs and amps. I ran across this product called a Aune X1s 32bit/284KHz DSD DAC Headphone Amplifier. I guess its a DAC and amplifier combo in one device. Is this something I could use instead or would you recommend against DAC/amp combos?
A community member
May 16, 2018
NiximaWould be perfectly fine dac/amp combos are great for saving space and still sound very good. I think having 2 separated would work if you want to experiment with tube amplifiers but other than that I would start with the combo if the price is right.
Nixima
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May 16, 2018
im looking in to the Fulla 2 from Schiit. Looks like it's exactly what i need because another HD 6XX owner said that the fulla 2 powers the headphones just fine. I might just go ahead get that because it's only $100 and seems very simple to use.
NiximaI'm a bit of a separates proponent but I must say amp/dac combos have greatly improved over the last 5 years or so. I just like the flexibility of separate devices and since most of my gear sits in a rack I'm not pressed for space. The Fulla 2 would be a good start for minimal investment. You can technically get sufficient volume from the HD6xx from an iphone so the Fulla should have no issues. The HD6 series do scale well with additional upgrades so it really is a good HP to evaluate amp & dac purchases. Owned it for almost ten years and it just keeps sounding better and better.
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