Nov 9, 20166828 views

Why don't men buy clothes on Massdrop?

Something that's been puzzling me about the "Men's' Style" section of MD:
To me "style" mainly means "quality clothes." But I've noticed that almost all the drops of clothes here don't get many buyers--the drop of cheap Chinese polo shirts was the only one I remember selling a lot recently. How does this happen? A well dressed man (not a hoarder) needs 1 wallet, 2-3 watches, and maybe 4 or 5 belts, and these last for 10 years or more. Any man needs a lot more shirts and pants, and those wear out. So why do watches and leather goods far outsell actual clothes here, despite costing as much or more? Is the average MD customer a 15-year-old boy who outgrows his clothes too fast to invest in them? Do accessories arouse more excitement so that people make more impulse purchases?
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Style has nothing to do with quality.
To me it's about the style. There are many quality offerings here but it's not often I find one that's a fitting match for me
Because grown ass real men find a local source. In trying to "save" time you end up losing and wasting it.
Hmcbride
Bro what
Too small for me (I'm a larger guy) and expensive with international shipping, for those that even ship internationally.
To answer your question about the clothing drops not selling as good (my opinion) is because you cannot try these on which is sometimes needed, you cannot exchange if you buy the wrong size (read the comments on the Naked and Famous jeans, every guy is a size or two off and wants to trade eachother). Watches and the boots or shoes on the other hand, we dont need to try on, simple.
The clothes are quality and I would like to buy a few pair of these $99 jeans but I am not about to roll the dice and hope they fit.
This is the only reason keeping me from buying clothes here, I was thinking of trying a pair on in the store and then ordering them? If i go to the store and try them on wouldnt I buy them since I went through that trouble and I am at the store with product in hand. Yes, but if the drop saved me a few $ I might buy another pair.
Oh and I dont think I like my clothing to have MASSDROP labeled on my trendy clothes either. I do find the clothes in trend which I like, and they are quality. Massdrop the label on the Naked and Famous jeans is......less than cool... in my opinion.
Just my two cents.
P.S. Massdrop, I am for hire, I have a few ideas I would love to share. One is bring RC car stuff back. Those drops were big and thats how I ended up learning about Massdrop. The RC car forums used to spread the word about the drops and thats free advertising.
Im serious, contact me. I am a Massdrop shopper and fan! I would like to work for you.
Chris O
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Collector
Glassdoor lists a bunch of Massdrop ads, including Product Managr, Watches:
https://www.glassdoor.com/Jobs/Massdrop-Jobs-E884294.htm?irs=C2J_TAB_OVERVIEW
Product Manager, Watches Apply NowSave4.0 Massdrop – San Francisco, CAGlassdoor Estimated Salary: $113k-$166k  
Massdrop is searching for a Product Manager to expand our Watch custom products program through organizing collaborations with enthusiast manufacturers and leading the development of new products with manufacturing partners. Our enthusiast members are dedicated experts in their categories and are influential in the way we conduct business. In order to provide unique products for our community, we partner with companies that make products our members love and respect.In this role, our Product Manager, Watches will be responsible for developing partnerships, leading negotiations, and forecasting revenue for both our collaborations and manufacturing projects. This individual will work closely with the Watch community, and members of our founding team to grow our pipeline of custom products.
Cloaca
Thank you! I wish I had marketing experience.
because the clothing is almost always either super expensive or hipster garbage or both
Don't wear a watch. Have two wallets, waiting on a drop to replace one of them. Have 8 belts. Have about seventy shirts, mixed among dress, casual, long and short sleeves and polo-type. But the prices here for shirts are out of whack. I can buy Lands' End dress shirts on sale for $25-40 in my size and they last for years. While they may not be trendy, they refresh patterns yearly, and it's a quality product. I do think that the drops tend to cater to more trendy tastes, which means fewer purchasers, and while the shoes are very nice, they tend to be in the +$200 range, which seems a bit of stretch for my budget. Granted, I haven't gone shoe shopping for a bit, so I don't really know value in shoes, so maybe I am missing out with the shoes drops. And pants, Lands' End as well as Levi's.
Could be I just need to up my game, but then we probably wouldn't be shopping here if we knew that already.
LCaseyK
Yeah, not many dress shirts on MD. I think it happened once. Land's End was a quality operation up to about 20 years ago, but now they just outsource to the cheapest factories. I'd rather buy half the shirts at twice the price and wear something I can respect.
I think it is hard to discount high quality clothing (or shoes for that matter). You are selling quality, not necessarily price. Of course, if you can convince an American Made manufacturer to sell a truckload at one time on The Drop! Well, get to it, pickle chops!!
Shoes are difficult to buy online unless you already dont a fitting instore . Kinda good on the wallet but a dick move against the stores. Same with a lot of shirts, clothes , jackets etc.
TurkS
Agreed on the shoes. Online shopping for shoes/boots can't compare to trying them on in a store with competent staff. That's worth paying for. But once you know your measurements, clothes aren't so complicated.
I find the measurements on clothes sold online to be unreliable, so the ability to return clothes is necessary. In fact, I tend to order three bracketed sizes and return two, so a company that doesn't like that doesn't get my business.
How clothes measurements should be done: Flat on table measurements of the garment, including for shirts a belly measurement, not just chest. If you have clothes at home that fit you can measure those and be sure.
Most places do really crazy measurements. Jeans waist? Vanity measure, totally removed from physical reality. Jackets? They will assume how much "ease" you want and factor that in. You may want little ease, or you may want to wear it over something or just have it baggy. You don't know how they've done it.
There is one physical reality: The flattened, non-stretched size of the garment on a table, measureed from specific points to other specific points. For certain knits and stretchy fabrics you may want to know the expansion percentage for both warp and weft. Again, you compare with existing clothes you have. You do not try to measure yourself, nor do you get someone else to measure you. You order an object of a specific physical size, and you either get that or you return what they send you.
basically those things are man- jewelry. bling always attracts more interest. you can change your entire look with just one belt. you wear all black say and you have a belt in every color it freakin' pops! yeah it's beyond what you need but style is much more than necessity. otherwise wear a onesie and work from home. also it's those things people buy as gifts it's easier than knowing what size dress shirt they wear.
Define: Men.
4-5 belts? For what?
LeCheffre
1 black and 1 brown dress belt. Same for casual, or 1 light and 1 dark, or 1 rough and 1 smooth, 1 wide and 1 narrow etc. The 5th belt would be woven rather than leather, for hot weather. To be well-dressed, that sounds about right, no?
LeCheffre
For the shoes one wears, of course! Aside from Black, Brown, and Tan, you need another two in White and Burgundy to match your Patent leather platforms:
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4-5 belts, 2-3 watches?
I guess I've got it all backwards.
Wait, no I have way more belts than I thought. Okay. 6 belts, 14 watches. :p
i hate buying clothes online because you never know how they'll look on you or if they'll even fit.
and it's worse on massdrop because you cant really return things because you dont like them.
i actually am more interested in clothes than i am the accessories page but i'm just too afraid of ending up with something i cant wear.
Because demographic of men on Massdrop are geeky. Cool keyboard case? Awesome. Cool jacket? Meh.
superdon
Pretty much. A cool jacket can buy another mech keyboard and another set of cans...
wellmaybe
Basically. I'm good with Walmart fashion, let's be real.
Now a days small, medium, large etc. each have 50 different meanings for what size they actually are. Even if looking at number sizes on pants for instance, it's impossible to tell how they will actually fit due to a seemingly endless spectrum of cuts. I'll only order clothing online after I've tried it on and know exactly what it is I'm ordering because I don't want to bother dealing with returning things.
2-3 watches? I have 1 nice watch but it rarely comes out, cell phones have time and more covered.
Lack of large sizes. MD always sticks to small-to-medium sizes, and nothing for real grown men lol
Value, or lack thereof. I buy clothes to last but it also has to be reasonable in price and lasting in design. I have shirts that are still proper that are nearly 15 years old. Proper style lasts and I'm not seeing it here so far.
Problematic return policies and it is slow. Certain of the other categories have more available high quality online reviews elsewhere.
cmagruder
yea that's true, there are many other avenues to get quality clothes. So far, I've bought mostly leather goods from MD which seems decent in quality vs other sites who claims to have good quality.
As far as I'm concerned the clothes they do sell for men are for hipsters. I'm not a Hipster I'm a blue collar worker. I don't need blue jeans that cost several hundred dollars or "boots" that will fall apart in their first month. I don't wear tight jeans or fedoras. The Styles they do have just aren't for me they're for hipsters.
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Great that you're aware of it. Then you should own up to it rather than acting like calling people hipsters doesn't have a negative connotation. It's fine if you don't want to be politically correct. Just don't pretend you're a saint when you're not.
LatticeMatrices
I am aware that people use the word negatively and I don't care. I am not using the word negatively they Market towards hipsters. There is nothing wrong with this and there's nothing wrong with me saying the word hipster. You need to get over yourself everything is not offencive, just stop with your Full House problems. I'm not pretending to be a saint you are. Political correctness is cancer and this isn't a political site.
Tip to all - get a credit card that allows returns for items that can't be returned to the manufacturer.
does Ian still work at MD?
shirts or coats would have to be in tall sizes. Ties would need to be extra long. Being a tall person with a long torso limits my shopping abilities. Narrow feet usually constricts my shoe shopping as well.
Their Wives, Partners,and Mothers buy them.
Heavy Sage Raw denim please! Especially the ranger 19oz.
Pretty simple... clothes need to fit and you can't tell if something will fit by picture and labeled size alone. Especially today with some manufacturers using vanity sizing and upsizing to make big people feel good, and others manufacturing for slim, muscle-less twigs. Most companies are somewhere in between but hard to tell where over the internet.
You can't return stuff on Massdrop. Why roll the dice every time you make a clothing purchase?
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DDro
That’s pretty much it. Also need a bit more variety or selections. Just a guess but the clothes on Massdrop may be heavily influenced by the taste of the Procurement team? Seems like the clothes are styled for a certain look.
If so nothing wrong with that, but we all have our own taste, style, and image.
DDro
Exactly. Fit varies drastically. And Its imparative for me to have well fitting clothes. Good fit is what makes you look sharply dressed, not the amount of money spent.
For example, even between two pairs of Levis jeans, with the exact same model and size, the fit can vary drastically. Why gamble online, with no returns, when I could just go to a store and purchase with confidence.
Watches, keyboard caps, knives..... you know what your getting!
Lack of size selection. It seems MD caters only to miniature, anorexic men.
I bought a shirt on massdrop. I bought an xl and when I received it it fit my 11 year old perfectly. I had no way to return it and couldn't fit my forearm in the sleeve. I'm not making that mistake again.
Dgriff
That sounds like the product didn't arrive as expected. Massdrop allows returns for situations where the product isn't as described as long as it's reported within 30 days of delivery.
Hmmmm I don't know . However if you look at Huckberry which must be for a similar market .....they seem to sell a bunch ? Maybe it just seems this way due to the group buy system?
Same as others. I used to purchase clothing items, but even on the drops that don't say no returns, I've experienced problems. Better solution for me was to stop participating in buys that have anything to do with sizing, even if I desperately want to participate.
And I don't think its a matter of sizing charts. Even if the sizing charts are correct, you can run large or small in certain brands. And trying to filter out the information that applies to me in each drop is tiring, and not even accurate.