Dec 9, 2016

Wifi Headphones: Are they considered off limits to audiophiles?

I see a ton of high end and mid line phones in the drops, but unless I am missing something, I have not seen a single set of headphones with Wi Fi. Is the cord considered essential to the finest listening experience?
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The only WiFi headphones I know of are vinci. i own them decent but not balls to the wall good
Some V-moda wireless sets would be real nice
First, I'm not aware of many/any credible examples of headphones using a Wifi band (i.e. not Bluetooth/Kleer/etc...). Second as others have pointed out, you run into limitations with what you can put into a headphone housing. I was adamantly against wireless(in particular bluetooth) for many years but the technology is improving. I actually purchased a pair of the Sony MDR 1000X for travel purposes. While they sound better than any other pair of wireless/NC or NC headphones I have tried, they still only compete in the $150 to $200 wired class on sound quality. With LDAC getting baked into future Android releases we may finally get decent sound out of a wireless connection... but we'll have to wait to see on that one.
You can get good sound with wireless as I own b&o Bluetooth that were 250
but worth it I think and I love high end corded also depends on weather you want to be tied down
or not
The short answer is "yes". But, the reality is this: if a corded connection is either impractical or is otherwise some kind of deal breaker, then feel free to go with the best wireless headphones that fit within your budget and practical needs. I have a pair BT earbuds that were quite pricey and sound pretty good (probably the best BT earbuds I've ever heard), but they simply don't have the same level of quality--particularly in terms of frequency response--to my wired units. However, the wired units simply do not hold up on my commutes, so I needed something that would last without sounding awful. Hence, the BTs. But, when it comes to listening at home, my HA-D990's are the go-to set for me.
I use Chromecast audio. $25 works great and syncs multiple. Wifi. Control's all rooms with app on phone.
The quad DAC in the LG V20 would seem to indicate that this should no longer be difficult to do with WiFi bandwidth. (And soon Bluetooth 5)
A direct connection to a source is far better than any wireless solution, bluetooth, IR, radio, WiFi. Analog signals are far better than digital, since it is "closer" to the source. These are philosophies that have a basis in truth, but technology has made it so most human ears cannot tell the differences. Since Audiophiles tend to be "purists" they like corded connections. Lifestyle and cost will determine what technology is popular and which consumers will want what types of technology.
I believe the problem is jitter. Audio professionals know that improving the accuracy of the clock subsystem will improve the stability. When you are using wireless data, you have to have a very large buffer and attempt to synchronize a stable clock to data coming in over the radio which is inherently jittery. It would be difficult to embed a stable clock in an earbud; the most stable clocks are crystal based and about the size of the earbud itself.

The size of the actual DAC circuit is small enough that one could imagine a custom IC that would put the DAC, the radio, and the amplifier on the same sliver of silicon (but it would be pricey to do a custom IC). But you'd still have the problem of a sizeable off-chip crystal to get a stable clock
take a lap with these, see what you think (I've been lappin for about 2 years):

https://rbhsound.com/epsb.php
TomMV
Going to try a set.
Sadly...yes. The very best wireless headphones won't even reach the level of beginner mid-fi. The main challenge I believe is the fact that the DAC and amplification has to exist within the headphone casing and you just can't get premium performance out of that without making the headphones too large.
GUTB
wifi is still better than bluetooth
eddie.c
Like gutb said problem is not wireless it's the built in DAC amp
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