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G-sync or Freesync Monitors?

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orangejedi829

Jan 4, 2017

Freesync = Adaptive Sync, which is built into the DisplayPort standard. All new Displayport monitors will support Adaptive Sync. It adds nothing to the cost of the panel and doesn't require special hardware. G-Sync, on the other hand, requires an expensive special module from nVidia, raising the price of the display. This also means the display manufacturers are relying on nVidia's chip for panel control, scaling, color, etc. This takes a lot of freedom away from the manufacturer and they (understandably) don't like that. This is why you see so few G-Sync monitors on the market. I bet it won't be long at all before nVidia cards support Adaptive Sync as well. And then that will make Adaptive Sync (Freesync) a no-brainer over G-sync for display manufactures.

stupidusernamecheck

May 9, 2017

orangejedi829Hi, what you said is true with a large BUT. freesync - open-source-like standard, and it is open to interpretation that is why the performance is not "stable" across devices, you would need to find a certified card and its matching certified monitor, so cheaper but VERY tedious. gsync - closed protocol that mfgs need to pay license for - so more expensive BUT no matter what NVidia card and what monitor you pair - you can expect excellent performance.
in more basic terms freesync is like google android, gsync is like iPhone OS (ask any android developer and they will tell you getting app behavior across all devices identical is a pain in behind)
if you want in detail coverage, there is a very talented and devoted techie on youtube (disclosure, that is not me or my account) called Battle(non)sense, he has excellent coverage of the topic.

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MassDebates

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May 23, 2017

orangejedi829Much of this post is a very good argument for marrying MassDrop's core values and purpose (exclusive savings on niche enthusiast products via group buying - y'know, like the G-sync monitor market) to G-sync monitors specifically.
I shouldn't have to wait for the market. MassDrop is supposed to give me what I want after waiting for shipping if it garners interest. That simply doesn't happen.

s0cket

Jun 30, 2017

orangejedi829"All new Displayport monitors will support Adaptive Sync."
Not true. Adaptive-Sync is *not* a mandatory part of the DisplayPort standard. Manufactures will not be taking the time to support it automatically on all their products.

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pezdspnzr

Jul 7, 2017

MassDebatesMaybe they did attempt to contact NVIDIA and they weren't interested, ever consider that?

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orangejedi829

Oct 3, 2017

s0cketYes, you're right, Adaptive Sync is not a mandatory part of the DP standard. And fron what I've read, we mostly have nVidia to blame for that. nVidia absolutely refuses to include Adaptive Sync functionality in their DP- equipped GPUs (suprise, suprise). If VESA tried to make AS mandatory, they'd have a major dispute with one of their largest clients.
At any rate, what I should have said is that all enthusaist-oriented displays will support Adaptive Sync in the future, because it's basically free to include.

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Bohefus

Nov 1, 2017

orangejedi829I don't really think you can blame Nvidia for not supporting a competing technology. They sell the video cards/chip sets and G-sync modules for a reason (to make money).

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DrKay

Nov 5, 2017

orangejedi829If that is the case then after buying a new Nvidia gpu every 2 years I will switch over to AMD just because Nvidia are too greedy when it comes to G-SYNC and they do not want to support adaptive sync.

Bobert

Nov 9, 2017

DrKayHow are they greedy when they don't sell monitors?

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Kryztoval

Nov 11, 2017

DrKaynVidia supports adaptive sync, in its own protocol called G-Sync. No amd card is as powerful as an nVidia one. You either get the best one and pay for that, or get amd and save some bucks.

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DrKay

Nov 11, 2017

KryztovalThat is very true that Nvidia gpu's are much more powerful than the AMD ones but still the sad fact remains that they want too much money for thier G-SYNC technology. G-SYNC is no doubt very good but it just costs too much compared to FREE-SYNC. I just hope that in the near future Nvidia make buying a G-SYNC monitor much more affordable.

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Kryztoval

Nov 13, 2017

DrKayMy point remains, You get maximum performance for a premium, and pay premium for a Gsync monitor, or you get cheap amd card with cheap freesync. It seems like nVidia is currently the "high end" car in the automobile industry.
I really hope that nVidia released Gsync for free, at least the implementation in the monitors, so we can get competitive displays.
But so far, it is just overkill.

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DrKay

Nov 13, 2017

KryztovalI agree, just hope they reduce the price soon.

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orangejedi829

Jan 5, 2018

BohefusAdaptive sync is only a "competing technology" because NVidia wants it to be. It's like if NVidia came up with a proprietary new display cable and stopped supporting HDMI or Displayport altogether, charging you extra by charging display manufacturers to make monitors that use their proprietary new cable. Would you defend them because now HDMI and Displayport are technically "competing technologies"?

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