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I really do appreciate your help and knowledge on this but I am unsure where this reference of the message of "Roc 412 is a Crawler specific motor, not advisable for a "high end" 4x4 upgrade." and the reply of "Tekin's ROC 412 is a 3100kv Crawler Specific motor, very low rpm and high torque, it would be like putting a stock brushed motor into a slash 4x4." would have anything to do with what we are talking about with this, we are talking about the Traxxas Slash 4x4 Massdrop is selling and has sold. May be I need to re-read our whole talk about it but from what you have said about the "Mamba Monster X with 2200Kv motor" that Massdrop is about to release, it seems that would be better than the "Castle Creations Mamba Monster 2 25V Extreme Car Esc Waterproof and a 2200 Kv motor" first suggested I posted in this pole, knowing that would fit and work with our Massdropped Slash 4x4. I am wondering if you may be replying for a different Drop or post as we have not talked about any crawlers, only the Massdropped Slash 4x4.
Thanks again DaveHoff!