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Lightweight backpack saw.

aFallenTree

WholeWheaticus

Jan 27, 2016

Coming at these products with the mentality of a ultralight/minimalist backpacker..
After a few days of research, I'm really hoping for the GOMBOY 240 IMO it is one of if not the best in terms of weight/strength/size
Albeit the Bigboy 2000 is fantastic, its getting to be too tall and a tad too heavy to justify the additional teeth.

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tsturzl

157

Aug 9, 2016

WholeWheaticusPersonally if you're going ultralight and/or minimalist backpacking you don't take things you don't need. You almost never need a fire. For the weight of a saw you could add another layer of clothing. If you want to go UL, don't bring a saw. If you need a fire, follow the LNT rules and only use wood you can process by breaking with your hands.

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WholeWheaticus

Aug 10, 2016

tsturzlMaybe if your just walking your local trails. Up here in Northern Canada you wont survive the night without a fire.. I absolutely agree that a lot of people over pack for hiking day trips. But my usage would be 2-5 day backpacking trips in remote locations.

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tsturzl

157

Aug 10, 2016

WholeWheaticusI just highly doubt that. I've slept in the dead of winter, sub zero, no fire. I've slept in remote areas filled with swamps, no fire. In Northern Canada it might help, but it's almost never nessesary if you are prepared. Some dude hiked across antarctica and the north pole, do you think he had a fire? Probably not, there's no timber. I beg to differ. A fire is nice, but there are solutions that are just as effective and usually more practical with modern gear. The truth is people just find something masculine and outdoorsy about having a fire, or some people find it comforting and aesthetic. A lot of people think about a campfire when they think about camping, hence why every private campsite has some kind of fire ring. It just bothers me that this has become the forefront in many people's mind when it comes to being outdoors. People want big knives that can chop down trees, expensive bushcrafting axes, saws for processing large wood, and all these impractical items. That's not Ultra-light. I truly believe if you're ultra-light you're focused on the journey, and 99.99% of the time you should leave your saw behind and you wouldn't spend the time and effort to have a fire. If you can hike across antarctica without a fire you can last 2-5 days in northern canada without one. You can also have a fire without having to saw anything. Like I said LNT says only burn fallen dead wood you can process by breaking with your hands.

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WholeWheaticus

Aug 10, 2016

tsturzlI see you are very passionate about the subject. But what you are failing to see is people's use outside of your own. Not everybody is just going on a hike, where obviously you don't need to bring wood processing materials.. One day you may find yourself with a bit of remote property. One day you may like to live on that property. Lots of 4-10" thick deadfall to be processed. If your going up there to work the land your going to need a saw.
A saw is a situational tool. When your going on a trip where it will be beneficial, bring it. If it wont be, don't. Simple. UL is also deciding to use a strong but light weight collapsible saw over using a chainsaw..
I see and understand the point you are attempting to make. But it doesn't apply here, your just making yourself look ignorant.

tsturzl

157

Aug 10, 2016

WholeWheaticusI don't care if you want to see a collapsible saw drop on massdrops. And sure a collapsible saw is a much lighter option than a chainsaw, but saying someone wouldn't last in northern canada without a fire is completely false. You weren't talking about processing wood on private land previously, what I said is completely in context to hiking remote areas in less than ideal conditions. I just don't think a saw is a common tool needed by most people who are ultra-light backpackers, its probably one of the top 3 items I'd tell a backpacker to give up on their move to ultra light. Whatever your use for it is, thats fine and that's up to your own judgement, but in the most standard case of what most ultralight backpackers are doing this item is something I don't find extremely useful in this community. In the most extreme climates on earth people do not have fires. There is always proper apparel to deal with the climate you're going into. Say you want to have a fire when you backpack, or you want to have a bushcraft approach to camping/backpacking/outdoors recreation, so be it, but that's not what comes to mind when most people describe ultralight.

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