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The steam controller really is pretty garbage. Kinda sad.
I have to disagree with people dissing the elite price. It's easily the best controller I've laid hands on. The levels of customization are quite terrific. Worth the price of adminssion.
You say the Steam Controller is garbage, and then praise the Elite controller specifically for its customization?
You do realize how silly that sounds, right?
You can make the SC do nearly anything, it can use KBM and Xinput at the same time, the touchpads can do anything from mouse to analog to Dpad (hell, even snap-position menus), you can bind anything to anything however you want. It has touchpads, an analog stick, gyro, dual-stage triggers, and tons of buttons all laid out thoughtfully and effectively. It even has haptics precise enough to play tunes, and they give you a bit of control over that as well.
The Xbox Elite controller has limited buttons, locks you to Xinput so the extra buttons can only be redundant, restricts you to ONLY analog sticks, and gives you a little control over mapping and sensitivity, then tries to justify an absurd price tag with some extra metal and rubber.
The Steam Controller only has two downsides:
-It's a lot different than normal controllers, so people have difficulty using it and usually give up before they really adjust.
-People compare a ~$50 controller to a ~$150 controller, which means that it'll feel cheap in relative. The SC is well built, especially for the price, but the Elite controller has the freedom of an insane budget.
The way people disregard the SC both confounds and infuriates me. Most people don't even try it before dissing it, and most of those who do only use it long enough to determine that they're not used to it and decide that means it's bad.
its because its a poor controller, physically. its fantastically customizable, but that doesn't matter if the shape is bad, the buttons too small and the triggers too short. (and it's missing a stick, but that wasn't a deal breaker IMO) I love how much you can customize the input, but that doesn't matter if they swing and miss on the physical.
That's not disregarding it, that's buying, testing, assessing and discarding.
I'll respond to a few points:
Shape: I'm not sure what you're on about. Do you mean it's uncomfortable? Because... I really don't understand how that would be. If you mean it just doesn't feel right, that's one of those "spend some time and get used to it" things. It's the best shape for the touchpads, it places your thumbs in the right place with the most access to the other stuff with the least strain. It only feels weird if you're trying to hold an Xbox or Playstation controller when you have a SC in your hands.
Buttons: Everybody complains about the size of the ABXY buttons, but by my experience that's just because they aren't using it right. They aren't for your frequently used actions like on normal controllers (jump, use, switch weapon, etc.), they're for infrequent things like hotkeys, toggles, and abilities. If they seem too small, that's your fault for setting it up poorly, not the controller's.
Triggers: I concede that the triggers are a little shallow, but I haven't really found issue with that. Sure, I don't really play racing games (which was your original point with the triggers), but on the occasions I have it didn't really stand out to me. I guess it's just one of those subjective things.
-I will say, however, that I can't imagine using triggers that aren't dual-stage now.
Stick: "It's missing a stick" is a phrase that communicates a complete lack of understanding of the entire reason the SC exists. It only feels like it needs another one if you're still expecting a 360/Xbone controller, which means you haven't spent enough time with it to make any reasonable judgement. I've even stopped using the stick for movement in FPS games now because the touchpads are simply better, now its only use is either in driving games or as a funky Dpad/Button-pad.
Sorry if this is a bit too verbose, I just have a lot to say~
The overall concave face of the device makes it akward to handle, and uncomfortable at about the 45 min mark. As with all things ergonomic, results vary, but that's my experience.
Saying "it's missing a stick" isnt a complete lack of understanding for what its trying to be, its me saying that is what i expect from a controller these days. I love me a twin stick shooter. I like precision passing/control (NHL/FIFA). For the things i use a controller for, a second stick is sometimes required and a touchpad configured for axis control is completely garbage in the same way that a touchpad on a laptop an unfortunate compromise. (one I dont tollerate, I take a mouse if I'm using a laptop for anything other than absolute basics)
When i sit down to game, I'm going to use the best input device for that game (within price constraints... good lord wheel servos can get expensive) and there is no point at which the steam controller is the best input device.
At the end of the day, this entire back and forth serves to illustrate another key reason PC gaming is supreme. The options are endless. We're not stuck with a design we don't like.
I still don't understand your discomfort thing, I've spent north of 5 hours straight with it without even taking notice that it's in my hands. I guess it's a subjective thing, but I can't shake the feeling you're just holding it wrong...
While options are always good, sometimes the way people handle them makes me sad, watching the popular option cripple the different ones...
It took me 2+ months to get properly used to the controller, and I see people tossing it and complaining about how terrible it is after a week. I just hope Valve doesn't decide to abandon hope of further controllers, or worse, decide to make their next iteration a 360 controller with a Steam logo. The SC is the first controller I actually like using, and I don't want to see it squashed by impatient people.
You seem to have a hard time accepting that other people can have opinions that are contrary to yours. Your assumption is that they're doing it wrong or that they just don't understand.
I'm glad you have a controller you love. For me, it's just on display with my controller collection along side a sidewinder dual strike and the power glove. In that aspect, it's a great controller. :)
I find that I have to catch myself a lot with the Steam Controller, remind myself that there is no objective "best" and that other people have different opinions...
It's hard to not come across like that when most of the complaints I see are about things that I encountered and fixed just through getting used to it, but oh well~
I had to look up the Sidewinder Dual Strike, that thing looks funky. I'd love to use that thing just to see if I can do so effectively...
Is the pivot joint just a hinge or multidirectional?
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