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Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Limited-Edition Black

Beyerdynamic DT990 Premium Limited-Edition Black

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I thought I’d mention that I purchased these (limited edition black) a few months ago on amazon.ca, I went for the 600 ohm version . My iPhone 6s drives these no problem. However, when paired with my Oppo HA-2SE amp These really shine. Using the amp, I tested my B&O H6 v2 and Oppo PM-3, and these had a different flavor, more open and wider than the two closed back earphones I have. As for the color, I wasn’t sure about the all black vs cool-retro grey, so I actually bought a spare pair of grey ear pads though. The permanently attached cable to the earcup is a downer as I would love to use a mod mic with these for gaming on console. The ear pads are large and totally enveloppe my ears. Love the feel of these. Can’t beat the quality and price on these.
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These vs sennheiser hs58x jubilee?
Besides the headband and color, are these any different than the premium versions at 600?
How big is the soundstage compared to the HD 598 se? Will I regret buying this if I'm coming from a neutral sound signature? I need a new pair of headphones.
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I'm aware that the 600 ohm 990s and 880s have the most potential. What DAC/amp would you recommend for them? Or do you think it would the Mayflower unit with the DT1990 offer a higher cost-to-performance ratio?
mattris
The amps he already said he was interested in are better, but they didn't exist when the Objective AMP was first made. The Liquid Spark or the JDS Labs Atom are both better, and only 99 dollars. I agree with the choice of DAC though, I will always recommend the ODAC which is what comes inside of the Mayflower. ODAC is the perfect balance of musicality to refinement. I also agree with your previous post about 880s, cause they are my favorite Beyers that aren't the Amiron and T1.
I have the 770 880 both 250 ohm. Is it worth getting the 990?
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Thanks dude
thanks for the reply - let me know if your experience is close to what you’ve researched on YouTube. Having both 250 ohm 770 and 880 I was surprised that the 770 had presented itself with higher treble I would have thought 770 would be warmer than 880 but turns out it was opposite.
Do we know the length of the cable? Is it really still 3 meters long? Thanks!
f..s
I believe its still 9-10 feet long.
Mikewannabees
Thank you!
Does anyone have suggestions for an amp under $200 that can be used for the 600-ohm version
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super8anana123
Like LStigmire said, Modi+Magni combo is great. I'm using it and can't even put the sound to max on low without blowing out my ears.
super8anana123
The O2 or the Element from jdslabs.com will deliver excellent performance with a neutral gone. And the O2 will happily drive 600 Ohms for less than $200. It was available on Massdrop recently.
Hand-Made in Germany So far so good Pay shipping and custom tax living in EU - NO THANKS !!! Well, I would be prepaired to pay fair postage for items manufactured in EU but NOT custom tax.!!!! Massdrop - Please get your logistics right, why ship the lot to US ? Just to ship it back to Europe !!! SILLY. How difficult is it to create good customerservice for us in Europe ?
Olsen
Why not just buy from a local store rather than expecting a US company to change its whole go to market strategy?
TreeFrogs
You work for Massdrop's marketing department? Is it really Massdrop's policy to push the global market to buy from their competitors? Or maybe you think the European market is too trivial for Massdrop to care about. And you must have missed that Massdrop has shipped other products directly from the manufacturer. Maybe your smart ass, unhelpful comment was missing the smart part, which would mean that it was just...
Someone be real with me here. I like sub bass in headphones. I hear these have lots of low end. I also hear I can mod the pads on the he4xx to get more low end. Would these or the he4xx be a better overall purchase for light music listening but mostly gaming?
Mikewannabees
I own the HE4XX and all of six (6) Brainwavz XL pads, all of which present a different sound signature. I found that the best-overall pads for most music - with the best bass quality and quantity - are the standard solid pleather model. Though for gaming, I would recommend the perforated pleather model, which sacrifices a bit of bass for a bigger soundstage (for better localization of footsteps in FPS games). With an abundance of mid-bass (not sub-bass) and a large mid-treble peak, many consider the Beyerdynamic DT990 a fatiguing headphone. Personally, I would not recommend it. So the HE4XX with pleather (or perforated) Brainwavz XL pads would be my recommendation for you. To use any aftermarket pads, you will need to acquire the official HIFIMan Velour pads and use their removable pad-attachment rings (https://www.ebay.com/itm/HIFIMAN-Velour-Earpads-Headphone-replacement-Ear-pads-for-HIFIMAN-HE-Series/253238435364) Before you buy anything, though... May I ask, what DAC and amplifier do you own?
Mikewannabees
The 4XX is the better bet. It's low end is flat and extends well to 30hz. The DT990 lacks sub bass but they do have a mid bass hump and are quite bassy overral for an open back can. I've used the 4XX with gaming and they offer a dynamic punchy signature that worked well for shooters and open world games. Used them a bit with RDR2 and they do well with a spacious world such as that. Just be weary, they like a good deal of power but as long as you have a good amp to drive them you should come away rather pleased.
Does anyone know how do these stack up to the Sennheiser 6xx (650)? I had a pair & loved them. Looking for a possible replacement.
russ6366
I have both DT990 600 ohm and Senn650/600 The Senn's focus on a lovely currated mid, whereas the DT990 has a very wide mid recession... They are more complementary than comparable. If you want Beyer's take on a more balanced version of the rapid reflex drivers, try the DT880. I perssonally much prefer it to the 990 generally, but more importantly for your question, it is much closer to the Senns.
russ6366
I've got 990 Pros and 6XXs and was actually comparing them this morning. They both sound great but as another commented pointed out, they are more complimentary than comparable. I'm no audiophile but I would describe the 6XX as having a fuller sound and I generally prefer them but I still reach for my DT990s often.
Comparing these to the ones from beyerdynamics website it looks like this might be slightly different in build? I.e. the cable connecting to headphones is solid while this one is not. The band looks thicker on the website and made out of looks like leather vs this one looks like foam.
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Dreathor
The headphones you are seeing on Beyerdynamic website looks to be a new update. I purchased my DT990 about 2 years ago. It wasn't from Massdrop and the cord looks exactly like what you see here. No telling when Beyerdynamic made the change. For a moment, I thought they changed it to a detachable cable.
Dreathor
Link? I'm on the North America website and don't see it.
Everyone wanna resell???
Mittomap
Email said me and 19 other people yet before the thing ended I seen 130 purchased so maybe people bought multiple or some were cancelled. I though will not resell as I need a better headset.
Got my Schiit Magni+Modi stack coming and now this. Was looking for good headset and decided on these and seeing all black + discount was a instant buy.
These have an insane looking V-shaped frequency response, so no thanks.
This checked all my boxes until I saw the firmly attached rubber booty connecting the cable to the cup. Am I wrong to assume a detachable cable is standard nowadays?
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NickMcPimpson2
Under $200, I wouldn't complain about an attached cable. But if you look around the web, DIY detachable cable mods are fairly popular.
Arjestin
$$$ is all relative. Detachable everything is always best.
If you have an amp and enjoy wide bright sound - the 600 ohm version is one of the best sounding headphones under $300. The fact that it sells here for just $169.99 is a steal! Highly recommended.
Beyers are my favorite headphones hands down. 880 600 ohms are my secret pleasure despite owning headphones several times their price, and the 990s are no exception I just don't need them cause I have their bigger brothers also by Beyer and use the 880s for classical.
When will this drop be available to Asia?
Ctyx
I use a parcel forwarding company, like Planet Express. It’s a California address, so you have to pay about 7.75% tax plus shipping fees. You pay customs once it hits your country.
Are there returns for this in case I don't like the sound? I have heard the sound can be pretty harsh to some ears (Im no audophile). Should I be worried about this?
Qu3tzal
Should you worry about it? Yes. It's not that the sound is harsh per se (because I think harsh is the wrong word), but the upper treble can be piercing on a lot of recordings, so any noise, distortion, clipping, dithering, quantization error, compression artifact, and flaw stand out obviously. It's a really unnaturally sharp treble, like you've probably never experienced before on headphones. Because the bass is a bit elevated and the mids are not upfront, the treble energy can stick out and bother your ears way before the mids and bass do.
All DT XXX models are very sensitive to the DAC/amp used, but the DT 990 are even more. Mine do not bother my ears when plugged to my Audient iD14, but on my Zoom TAC-2, they're really thin and sharp because it doesn't have the power to move them, plus its AK4396 DAC itself has a crystalline quality to its sound. On my Asgard 2 with the Denon DA-300USB DAC, they sound their best, like different headphones. The PCM1795 DAC on the Denon has a refined top, and the Asgard 2 itself has a tube-like quality to its sound, softening the uppermost frequencies without hiding any detail.
DT1990 drop when :'(
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iKnowThings
You can get it off amazon.co.uk for 324 GBP. Which is ~$425 USD.
I just got these in the mail yesterday and spent a whole evening gaming and listening to music. I usually am a Sennheiser guy, but I was always curious how the 990’s sound. No stores in my area have them to listen to. I was very weary of the so-called piercing highs and was intrigued by extended low end. After about a solid 6 hours of listening to these, I can say that I love them for what they are. Clamp is loose, super soft material, and build quality I think is perfect for the price. Didn’t get irritated or uncomfortable wearing these at all. So what did I think of the sound? I immediately noticed the extended treble, and I did not think it was harsh or fatiguing in any way. Definitely higher than what I’m used to with Sennheiser’s, but actually still quite pleasant. Mids are slightly recessed, but not to a point where everything sounds tinny or hollow. They‘re still there. Bass is superb on these cans. Very clean and precise, as well as huge presence (especially for open back cans). Soundstage wasn’t spectacular but still very good. These will definitely be my main driver for awhile as they still need to break in a bit more. Final note: I love the all black design.
Jerdrumr
250 or 600 ohms? If you use them at home only and on a good amp I hope you went with the 600s
Every time I walked into Guitar Center, I couldn't stop myself from listening to these. Great sound, SUPER comfortable. Non-detachable cable is my only complaint. Can't wait to receive them.
My rattling DT880 driver makes me hesitant... let me check amazon revie.... NOPE.
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xformulax
There's probably a piece of hair on the driver.
Roppmaster
Yea, this was back in 09 or so, I completely tore them down, removed the felt and the other cloth/fiber covering the metal grill for the driver, seems like the grill itself is likely the source of the rattle, but removing the cloth that was on the metal grill and then replacing the felt bad did improve it quite a bit, unless i'm really listening for it or there is deep bass I can't really notice it. If I run a frequency sweep, or crank the volume at 70hz for example, it rattles like crazy.
I was wondering if you can adjust the headband on these headphones
Twillrex
Yes you adjust it. You can collapse the hangers all the way into the ends of the headband it extend them out 3 to 4 " on either side which will accommodate every head size from pinhead to gargantuan.
Assimilator702
thanks maN
Personally I prefer the DT-990s, they're more detailed and less boomy, richer on the low end. I'm on set #2 of DT-990s 600 OHm as I've been using them for about 15 years now. They're also a little more comfy. The 650s feel upfront and more akin to the soundstage that many consumer styles try and fail to get whereas the DT-990s are designed produce lively performances.
Both are on the aggressive side of headphones. The treble tends to be the divider. I hate overly bright soundstages yet like love the DT-990s. I'd say the bass though without question, on the DT-990s is more detailed and richer for the focus on extreme low ends without over compensating lower mids like the HD-650s.
I'm in the minority but the DT-990s seem to have a cult around them, and I'm certainly a member. I don't like mixing on them as I tend to under mix things because of the liveliness but damn they are beautiful when it comes music and well suited to movies and games too.
FuzzyWalrus
I've never heard a DT990, but your 650 comparisons seem odd given what I've heard from them.
The 650 definitely doesn't do extreme low end. That much is true. However, the 650 is far from "boomy" in any capacity when driven well in my experience. It's got a bit of bloom maybe, leaving a bit of syrupy sweetness to the lower mids, but no hollow slop with a slow decay that I've heard far too many times, which I associate with the term "boomy" when it comes to bass. And I wouldn't say that bloom is the result of overcompensation, rather a tuning decision that plenty of things (some of which I really like) don't do in the same way. The 650's bottom end sounds great when fed quite a few things in my experience. I still prefer the bottom end on the planar drivers I've heard, but that's a different animal entirely.
I wouldn't really consider the 650 to be terribly aggressive either. The forward (lower) mids do lend the sound a more personal presentation, but it's a pretty relaxed sound overall to my ears. I think the 650 is a bit too slow to really be what I would call aggressive. The 990 was described to me as somewhat V shaped, whereas the 650 is a lot more mid heavy, so I could see how that would sound overly forward if you like the V tilt (not sure how significant that V was supposed to be). I won't really say anything about detail having never heard the Beyers, but the Senns definitely are no slouch there.
Of course, all of this could just be coming down to vocabulary differences, and we could be saying the same things in different words. That's a consistent annoyance of describing sounds.
Plenty of people like the 990 (seems like more now than back when I was starting out... the 880 was king back then) and there is surely reason for it. I'm not trying to push the 650 as the perfect thing for everybody, or steer anyone away from a 990, but the descriptions of the 650 seemed weird given what I've heard out of a 650. Either way, Beyer makes some good stuff, Senn makes some good stuff, and both paths are likely to put something nice on your head.
Is the cable detachable? From the photos it looks like it is not...
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Walkerjohn
There are no stock 770/880/990 models with detachable cable to my knowledge. It was a big feature addition in the new gen. . .
I have similar 990 editions (chrome), and they are attached.
Walkerjohn
you want connectors or cheap custom cables? I'm your man ;-)
I'm in France. I m used to ordering drops but this is the first time I have a warning message telling "this drop is not available for your location" ! Why that ??
meomec
Vendor or MD can impose limit to country to supply or to block, on past few popular drops many Asia country on block list and many people complaints had arisen as result but never resolved. Other will suggest to use paid parcel forward service (order arrived at US address and manual forward to your own address, small chargers depends on conditions and slight delay), I never tried, but I had use alternate address before (friend address within mail list, and he manual forward).
I am located in Germany, and these headphones are made in Germany. In the description it says : "All orders will be shipped by the vendor". Who is the vendor, Mastdrop our Beyerdynamic? Can this be shipped without leaving Germany to save on shipping costs and spare the customs fees?
BTW, this question arises more often here, because even Sennheiser is located in Germany, AKG in Austria, and Focal is located in France, all within EU.
Mastdrop finally should find a solution for this, what sense does it make to spare on the price when shipping and customs fees eat this all up?
KaiS
Often the deals that Massdrop would get from a manufacturer would be for taking a single, large shipment sent to a single location. A manufacturer in Europe probably wouldn't want to deal with individual packaging and shipping all over the EU for the same price as the bulk package deal. I suppose that Massdrop could contract a distributor/shipper in the EU to take a smaller bulk shipment and then distribute it but would then not have to do the same for Asia, South America, Austraila/New Zealand, Russia etc? This would all add extra cost and drive up the unit price for everyone.
Hi guys, I'm also considering into getting these open-back cans as my first entry-level audiophile headphones. I'll be switching from my closed-back HyperX Cloud II gaming headset. I don't have any DAC/AMP yet but I've read that my MSI Z370 SLI Plus motherboard has Audio Boost 4 as one of its features that can drive up to 600-Ohm headphones.
" The built-in dedicated headphone amplifier rewards audiophiles with headphones up to 600Ω impedance by delivering studio-grade sound quality from your gaming PC. Audio Boost 4 automatically detects the optimal impedance for your headphones and adjusts the output for the best sound quality. " https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-SLI-PLUS/Overview
Will my on-board audio be enough to drive the 250-Ohm or 600-Ohm variation as what my motherboard says on paper? Or do I really need a DAC/AMP? Thanks for any inputs.
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EdwinG
I would recommend trying them with your onboard audio, and if you don't like it then buy a DAC/Amp.
I'm late to this but I hope you bought the 990s! I have the 990 Pros, and they are absolutely fantastic in games. The soundstage is incredible.
Can anyone comment on the cable; is it 3 meter straight? Thanks in advance. I already have a pair with the coiled cable but they sound so good I may get these , LOL.
Desmoface
Basicaly this is the premium version so I believe it has straight cable. Don't forget that this one is 600 ohm impedance so you will need more power to drive it. I believe you have the Pro version with 250 ohm judging from the coiled cable. Hope this helps.