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Apr 25, 2024
I only got the tune up kit so only driver dampening and cup dampening. I used Dekoni pad that I got from another drop since Lawton pads are too expensive. Also did not purchase Lawton wood cup.
Your mileage may vary. Since any of the above will change how it sound. But in my case I liked the new signature, you might or might not.
It improved details and tighten the bass but at the same time you get less bass (quality over quantity). Also no matter what cup you use it will make it sound like "Lawton Cup" instead of whatever signature your cup originally had (cup dampening overwrites the cup properties).
If you use it on Teak cup it will make it sound more like TH-X00 Mahogany's signature (except more treble and vocal and less bass) so be warned.
For me which was fine since I didn't like the female vocal recessed signature from Teak and was hoping for a bit more treble, so I end up experimenting and liking this new sound. I would say Lawton mod made it more dynamic sounding (lack of better word, but it basically bring up treble and vocal, and tightens bass so overall it sounds "punchier") at the cost of reducing bass quantity (even though quality went up).
I also had to "mod the mod" by cutting a hole in the middle of the foam to get the right level of balance for me. More foam = more treble and vocal, less bass. Less foam = punchier bass. I also tried taking out the foam completely and it didn't sound good, so you need a little bit. Be warned that this is non-reversible because you're cutting into the foam so if you do plan to go head do it in small increments.
So would I recommend it? Well it depends on what you like. At the moment I have stock TH-X00 and E-Mu Teak with Lawton dampening applied. I like both for different things (was planning to sell one but might end up keeping both).
If you currently don't dislike any aspect of the headphone I'd recommend not touching it. It changes quite a lot of things so you might or might not like the change. If you already like your Teak then DO NOT TOUCH IT. The resulting sound is quite different than the stock Teak sound.
I think for me I liked the TH-X00 side of sound signature a bit more so this end up working for me (since the mod sort of bring it closer to that side of sound).
Let me know if you any other questions. :)
Did it make things "too bright"...I don't know; I think like you, it depends on what you like. I'll agree that the nature of the bass is also affected, but I haven't decided for certain if it's in a negative way. I like bass...I like snappy, articulate bass with fast transients that don't overpower the rest of the music--I'm not a bass head, but I DO appreciate a more full-bodied sound to a lean (even if slightly more accurate) presentation. To provide some context, I sold my Senny HD-800s in favor of keeping my Oppo PM-1s and now a set of Focal Utopias. The Sennys may have been technically superior in absolutely near-accurate audio reproduction, but I didn't find them as "fun" to listen to than the PM-1 or Utopias because they just kind of laid there, especially at the low end. So back to these cans--to my ears, there's still plenty of enjoyable low end with the Lawton-MUs (hereafter, LA-MUs), and I think the QUALITY of the bass might be a tad more accurate than the unmodded E-MUs, but I think maybe it's the added oomph up high that gives the impression that there's less bass when in fact it's just that the bass is no longer accentuated quite as much relative to the rest of the spectrum. Thus, I'd have to offer similar advice as you...if you really like your Teaks, I don't know as the LA-MU mods will make them appreciably "better" E-MUs... but it will make them DIFFERENT. However, if you're looking for a sound with a bit more "presence" that feels more revealing of the underlying music...and again, based on my findings, notably so...then perhaps the Level 1 mod really is the way to go for you.
I find it kind of hard to find actual user reviews on Lawton mods (except the ones from his website, but those are old and also cherry picked) so it's refreshing to see your reviews. :)
P.S: Woahhhhh Utopia congrats!
In truth, I think the Lawton ear pads were DEFINITELY worth it in terms of comfort and fit--the sound changes after the absorber mods--maybe so, but I honestly don't plan on reaching for these as my daily (or even serious) listeners. These HPs (and my wife's 'almost' matching set of E-MUs) were destined to go in our bedroom to mate up with the Smyth A16 I've had on reserve for nearly a year so we could get a taste of the Dolby Atmos experience without having to put speakers up everywhere. The Lawton experiment on this pair was simply that...a chance to play around with an identical pair of cans to see what all the fuss was about.
And to my ears, yeah...they definitely make a difference and they DO open up the music to reveal things you weren't hearing before, but they do change the sound signature quite appreciably. In that spirit, I PERSONALLY see them as more a solution to a problem, especially if you're looking for something different or "MORE" than what your HPs already deliver (maybe more presence in the mids/highs, taming some overbearing low end to be tighter and more articulate, etc.) rather than taking already great set of cans to the next level. BUT, my ear is hardly that practiced or ultra-discerning either and I read plenty of reviews about the Fostex TH900s taken to stratospheric heights with a set of Lawton mods on board (which is what got me interested in the first place) so I guess maybe I could just as easily be full of $&!%.
As for the Utopias...thanks...yeah, it was quite a coup to find them at what I considered a reasonable price--and yeah, they really ARE quite exquisite. I don't have the Clear, Elear or Elex to make an A/B comparison like I did with the E-MU/LA-MU set I have now, though I'm teetering on the edge of biting the Elex drop just to have something similar-ish for a set of cans at work. We shall see...
Denon AH-D2000 was fixed using Lawton tune up + my own mod (back and forth like 50 times). E-Mu Teak was fixed using Lawton tune up + cutting off the middle part of foam + Dekoni premium pad. TH-X00 is just right, didn't touch it except I realize Dekoni pad improve soundstage by a lot so I ordered another one.
In retrospec maybe I could've saved myself a lot of headache and money by just getting TH-X00 (Mahogany or Ebony) in the first place and then ear pad for soundstage (a lot recommend Eikon pads, I had good experience with Dekoni so I figure I'd stick with it). As you mentioned, Lawton is a great guy but I find it a bit ironic that I bought the kit to make my E-Mu sound closer to TH-X00 lol (granted it's still different enough but not THAT different).
At least I had fun (except my wallet) testing all the combination of things while I was at it.
But yes I hear Clear / Elear / Elex is different enough than the Utopia to make it a DIFFERENT experience. So might be worth it to look into it. LOL this hobby is a never ending hole.
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I’m pretty limited as far as real world experience outside of these and a few pairs of akg sets, but of my sets they’re definitely my go-to for most things.
Personally I've tried my friend's HD700, HD800 and demoed LCD2 in store, I think overall TH-X00 sits at the best performance/price/fun ratio.
Try the Dekoni Elite Hybrids from the T50 series mate, I was amazed what that did to my D2000's.
Though I am interested to try it one day. :)
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Comfort is superb!
For some OCD reason, I'd rather prefer a round/circle ear cup to the Jmoney.
In the mean time could you comment on if there's any effect on soundstage? I didn't notice too much difference in Sheepskin but Protein Leather (got from previous drop) actually improved soundstage by quite a bit surprisingly.