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I would not buy these without the clip though, I just find it too useful. I also prefer the flat capped black matte bullet pen because it's just slightly shorter without sacrificing size to grip the pen. It also sits better when clipped in pocket, I usually clip it in my "fifth" coin pocket which is the perfect size. I'd suggest those who love space pens to give that bullet space pen variation a try because I didn't think I could love my space pen any more, but apparently I could! Hope this enlightens anyone considering these.