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KDOH
12
Apr 30, 2017
Ordered them, then canceled. Only based on the fact that the cables aren't removeable. I know that mods exist, and I'm capable of doing them myself...but I'd rather incentivize MD to push for more modular headphones than compromise for $400.
On top of that, the HD 6XX are pretty good until I can find these or the E-Mu Teaks with a removeable cable. Alternatively, I wait too long and buy some Mr. Speakers...
Cambo
422
Apr 30, 2017
KDOHYou aren't going to be able to push MD to change this item, it wont happen. The value as it is for this item is already ridiculous. If you want removable cables, you have to pay the extra $200 for the TH610. I honestly suggest you just buy the headphones. Alternatively you can buy the E-MU Teaks for an additional $100 which have a removable cable.
Dubharmonic
90
Apr 30, 2017
KDOHThe whole point of this model is to make a less expensive option for us. The options you're looking for are already on sale elsewhere, they're just not part of a drop.
amoeba1126
460
Apr 30, 2017
KDOHI suggest you read up on how Massdrop collaboration works for these headphones before making these sort of posts. This part specifically addresses your point "...in response to our Audiophile Community’s call for a price-to-performance redefining closed-back headphone ". The goal here is to keep costs down without compromising on audio quality. To get headphones of this quality to a price that the average consumer is willing to spend requires certain expenses elsewhere being cut down; location of manufacturing, parts used, packaging, etc. Making the cables detachable will only increase the costs for the end consumer as well as provide another point of potential failure. Long cables can be tied using velcro straps, modded, or looped. If you want the Fostex variant headphones with detachable cables, they already exist in the new TH-610 and TH-900 mk2 as well as the E-MU series that you can buy at ANY TIME from Chan.
That said, I WOULD like to see the cable being terminated to a 3.5mm jack instead of quarter inch, given the efficiency of these headphones.
KDOH
12
Apr 30, 2017
amoeba1126The HD 6XX had removable cables and were only $200, hard to believe that the cost of a different jack is so significant. You might have a better understanding of the exact costs required, but the cost of the parts alone is insignificant. While a removable cable provides a point of failure at the jack, it removes the point of failure at the cable, so there's something there.
How would I go about getting a pair of E-Mu Teaks from this Chan you speak of?
KDOH
12
Apr 30, 2017
CamboYou're dead on, the value is real and I can't change MD by myself, but I'm happy to stand alone for my opinion.
amoeba1126
460
Apr 30, 2017
KDOHA detachable cable by itself isn't too expensive. Changing an entire manufacturing process or adding a new assembly process however will and does add up. It's funny that you mention the HD6xx as both the HD600 and HD650 have had detachable cables. It costs Sennheiser literally nothing to include that feature.
The TH-X00 on the other hand, are based after the TH-600 (and perhaps TH-900) parts. The manufacturing and assembly process is already there and ready to go. Making detachable cables well cause them to have to:
- Change the metal brackets - Change the cable or at least the termination of the L/R ends - Increase personnel (or slow down assembly) to solder on the jacks and terminate ends to some sort of smaller connector - Add an extra half circle hole at the edge of the wooden cups
Add this up with expenses of parts on a made to order process of those wanting detachable cables (connectors, jacks, shorter cables, additional internal wires, solder, etc) and you end up with increased expenses that are offloaded to us end consumers.
You can email Chan directly at enquiry@emu.com on how to purchase E-MU headphones and wooden cups. Make sure to ask for the ones with detachable cables.
Cambo
422
Apr 30, 2017
KDOHemail enquiry@emu.com
$500 USD for the headphones with detachable cables (Teak, Rose, Mahogany, Purple Heart, Sabili or Zebra cups) Additional $20 for Ebony or Pola Santo cups. $20 for shipping.
jaab
0
May 2, 2017
amoeba1126the th-600 is not made anymore! the th-610 has removable cable, they don't need to add any new process. It's just a marketing problem. You want detachable cable? by the th-610!
amoeba1126
460
May 2, 2017
jaabThem not making the TH-600 anymore doesn't mean that all the parts they had just goes poof. Same goes with the equipment that they have been using to make the TH-X00 style headphones since the Denon Dx000 series. If you want TH-X00 style headphones with a detachable cable, just get an E-MU. It sounds identical to the average consumer and if you get their mahogany matte cups, they are virtually identical. Just be prepared to pay $100 more for the feature.
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