Click to view our Accessibility Statement or contact us with accessibility-related questions
It's not THAT bad a steel, not hard to sharpen.... Many, many, people don't need a super steel for their uses..... Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing it in a better steel, but it will be fine for many who shop in this price-point. Hearing a lot of people make points like this recently and liking it. that said, I’m sure you understand that to a certain extent steel critique and commentary on other materials is an implicit critique of price, driven by consumers who are rating a deal as much or more as they are assessing a knife. There’s all kinds of problems with how we talk about steel as knife enthusiasts. We want to use alloy names as a brand of quality, we want to say one is better than another for many reasons, some of which suck. And the truth is a custom ground and heat treated good budget steel is likely to outperform an expensive super steel blade on a production knife with grind angles and work processes chosen for their economic merit. That production knife blade gets forged in a batch, ground in a batch, tempered in a batch, and comes out of a batch oven with hundreds of other blades. Did they all get the exact same heat treatment? Depends on how good the oven is. If a specific heat treat calls for one temperature for a set time than to be dropped down 1-200 degrees evenly and safely within 20 minutes, and you have a century old industrial kiln that isn’t built for rapid controlled temp change on that order... mb not. another big issue; many of us take Rockwell hardness as the best measure of a pocket knife steel. But we test HRC at the spine. Do we cut with the spine? No, steel strength at the spine is more impactful on flexibility than on cutting edge performance... but we can’t reliably Rockwell test the cutting edge and trying damages the cutting edge to a degree that testing the spine does not. And we know processes like grinding can ruin a proper heat treat by overcooking the steel. So spine HRC really isn’t incredibly meaningful. it’s like the joke about the guy searching for his car keys under a street light, and someone comes up to help and asks him ‘is this where you dropped your keys?’ And he says ‘actually I dropped them over by the mailbox down the street but the light here makes looking easier”
Gerber Sumo Pivot Lock Knife
01 / 06
Gerber Sumo Pivot Lock Knife
bookmark_border
Where's the price?
To negotiate the best possible price for our customers, we agree to hide prices prior to logging in.
95 requests
Product Description
With a name like the Sumo, you knew this knife had to be big and powerful—and it is. Clocking in at 9 inches long and weighing 5 ounces, it’s designed for heavy-duty tasks Read More
You Might Also Like
search
close
Sort by: Top Conversations
keyboard_arrow_downbookworm13
677
Apr 23, 2020
I guess if you need to practice your sharpening skills, then a blade in 7Cr17MoV would be a great choice. 😉
reswright
3851
Aug 4, 2020
It's not THAT bad a steel, not hard to sharpen.... Many, many, people don't need a super steel for their uses..... Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing it in a better steel, but it will be fine for many who shop in this price-point. Hearing a lot of people make points like this recently and liking it. that said, I’m sure you understand that to a certain extent steel critique and commentary on other materials is an implicit critique of price, driven by consumers who are rating a deal as much or more as they are assessing a knife. There’s all kinds of problems with how we talk about steel as knife enthusiasts. We want to use alloy names as a brand of quality, we want to say one is better than another for many reasons, some of which suck. And the truth is a custom ground and heat treated good budget steel is likely to outperform an expensive super steel blade on a production knife with grind angles and work processes chosen for their economic merit. That production knife blade gets forged in a batch, ground in a batch, tempered in a batch, and comes out of a batch oven with hundreds of other blades. Did they all get the exact same heat treatment? Depends on how good the oven is. If a specific heat treat calls for one temperature for a set time than to be dropped down 1-200 degrees evenly and safely within 20 minutes, and you have a century old industrial kiln that isn’t built for rapid controlled temp change on that order... mb not. another big issue; many of us take Rockwell hardness as the best measure of a pocket knife steel. But we test HRC at the spine. Do we cut with the spine? No, steel strength at the spine is more impactful on flexibility than on cutting edge performance... but we can’t reliably Rockwell test the cutting edge and trying damages the cutting edge to a degree that testing the spine does not. And we know processes like grinding can ruin a proper heat treat by overcooking the steel. So spine HRC really isn’t incredibly meaningful. it’s like the joke about the guy searching for his car keys under a street light, and someone comes up to help and asks him ‘is this where you dropped your keys?’ And he says ‘actually I dropped them over by the mailbox down the street but the light here makes looking easier”
(Edited)
radpoodle
254
Keyboard Club Member
Apr 23, 2020
this looks really interesting at this price point, hard to find any reviews or anything but found a brief showing of it in a clip from shot show 2020.
https://youtu.be/RWyIgQ4zmX0?t=492
Cottrell29
4
Apr 23, 2020
I'd pay 3 times more for a blade steel with good edge retention and corrosion resistance like XHP, S30V, or CPM154. I'm not getting this one. I like the form though.
stoutdog
305
Apr 23, 2020
Cottrell29Agreed, it does have a nice profile. I'd like to see Gerber make a comeback. I like my Fastball's.
reswright
3851
Aug 3, 2020
Cottrell29You can probably get a Griptilian for that price range in one of those steels if you wait and watch.
If Benchmade's not your thing, maybe check out Hogue, then. Their ABLE lockers (same as the axis lock) run a little higher but they have nice sales from time to time.
Bknguyen
693
Apr 23, 2020
Descriptions say thumb studs but pics show a hole. Hope it's the hole, definitely looks better imo
Leoanger
355
Apr 23, 2020
BknguyenTheir mistake, really. I've about given up hope that Drop will enlist actual enthusiasts to write their product descriptions.
colossalbreacker
1
Jun 26, 2020
I don't know if this is the case for anyone else, but i received the opposite color to the one i ordered.
MichaelHeartless
128
Sep 8, 2020
colossalbreackerSame. Ordered the black/red version and received the gray/blue version. So far, no word from Drop's support.
1esk19
10
Aug 3, 2020
I'd give Gerber a large chunk of money if they would put their FAST system on a high-quality blade.
1esk19
10
Aug 4, 2020
Fair enough, but it's my favorite locking system of any I've ever used, and I've had tons of working knives. Hate liner/frame locks, buttons make me nervous in my back pocket, lockbacks are awkward, etc. Axis locks are good enough but they're just not as, well... fast, lol. I don't ever think about opening and closing it when I'm working on something, it just sorta happens automatically. I don't notice things like grit, generally. And the fact that I can get a two pack at Home Depot for like $20 is nice because I don't have to worry about f***ing up the blades.
But it'd be real nice to have a good blade for a change.
reswright
3851
Aug 4, 2020
1esk19Fair enough. I own more than one FAST knife, myself. :)
I myself am leaning more toward plunge locks these days as much as axis and compression locks tho. I'd never put a pocket knife in my back pocket so I'm not worried about sitting on a button. I think the thing I like about them the most is that the flip on a pure plunge lock is as smooth as it can get -- no detent riding the tang, no springbar messing with the pivot.
For a guy like me, that means it's fast, close to being as fast as an automatic, which is not quite as fast as a wave blade, which is the other way I roll.
Niel50
13
Aug 3, 2020
Another “Made in China” not indicated on Drop, but found another website with the same knife unafraid to indicate the country of origin. Drop usually goes one of two ways, ridiculously expensive or cheap because it is made in China. Saddens me that one must spend $100 to get a good $30 product.
Showing 33 of 54
Recent Activity
Related Products
Drop Refurbished
Like-new products you can trustDrop Rewards
Get $5 for every 500 points you earn! Learn more
Drop Keyboard Club
Become a member and expand your keycap collectionCollaborate With Us
For Brands & DesignersFollow Drop