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GK64 Custom Mini Mechanical Keyboard

GK64 Custom Mini Mechanical Keyboard

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Does the keycap set include all the extra keys for customization like shown here <https://kbdfans.cn/collections/cherry-profile/products/cherry-profile-sakura-keycaps-126keys>?
Thanks, Peter
peja
No, it just includes the caps that cover the board.
I have the wood/carbon fiber version of this keyboard and I hate it. I truly, truly, hate it. I would not recommend it to anyone.
I wrote a more detailed review on Geekhack which I'll link to here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95619.0
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Kevadu
I think your review hit all the points I feel uncomfortable about this keyboard while I got a normal version of it, not the carbon fiber plate. The switch is still very easy to fall out compare to my other keyboard. Even though I can work around with most of the negatives, I have to let it go after a month since I cannot get used to the 1U shift key. It really hurt my pinky finger and I also hit the up key instead of Shift like 35% of the time.
Kevadu
This guy gets it. I had a similar issue to your spacebar issue on my KBDFan 75, but happening with my L-Shift. Drives me nuts.
There's just NO WAY to fit arrow keys into a 60% layout without sacrificing the lower alpha row positions, removing the ?/ key, or messing with the shifts in a way that makes it unbearable to use.
Is this a kit or is it pre-assembled ?
ChimairaSpawn
It's pre-assembled.
So how easy is it to replace the stabilizers?
blakstealth
It's quite easy to do that, You can basically disassembly the whole things to separated out the plate and the PCB. Thus changing the stabilizers is just a matter of unscrewing everything.
is there a way to only get the keycap? :)
Cromat
Does this keyboard support splitting the backspace into two keys?
Is that a 1U right shift?
dakota
yep. And the left Shift is like a 2u
Is there any way to determine which backplate will be used? I am interested in the wooden case option, however in the pictures it appears the cherry blossom option comes with a carbon fiber plate, where the aurora appears to come with a metal backplate. Any idea on what backplate will come if I ordered the wooden case without keycaps?
Does anyone know how much it was during the drop?
otanishock
$169.99 with the wood case. $149.99 without.
Is there a download link for the software to customize the keyboard?
Edit: I found it but be careful using the 3rd off line section. I thought I nearly bricked my keyboard or something because it kept disconnecting and reconnecting when I went to that section but it works. The program itself feels janky and I just set the colors to white because I really don't want to mess with it after the initial scare.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9XoYZuzpjWncUpmelctM3VqMUk/view
Where I got it from: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keyboard/products/gk64-mechanical-keyboard-64key?variant=41021830669
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It's not so much that the keyboard is bad. It's more that the software makes it difficult to do things that wouldn't be difficult with other keyboards. Stuff like having to run the software in the background, or having to plug in a second keyboard to input keystrokes, makes it seem like the people who wrote the software weren't mechanical keyboard enthusiasts. There are excellent community-developed alternatives like QMK or TMK that they could easily have used instead of writing their own lame software.
As far as using the software, I haven't played around with the LED stuff. Other people have said it's difficult to use, but it should be possible to figure it out.
If you aren't planning to program the keyboard (switch keys around or program your own function layer), you don't need to worry about that. Since it's your first keyboard, you may not have expectations about what you should or shouldn't be able to do. For me, not being able to map Function to Caps Lock with the first version of the software was frustrating. That was eventually implemented, but the newest version of the software wants you to switch layers, rather than using a momentary modifier. If none of this means anything to you, then you don't need to worry.
What was frustrating about the GK64 for me (and for other people whose comments I read) was that I wanted to set it up the same way I had set up my other keyboards. The software made that impossible in some cases and unreasonably difficult in others. The frustration really came from expectations I had from using other keyboards though. I guess this was a really long-winded way of saying that because it's your first mechanical keyboard, you'll probably be happy with it. You'll just be happier with whatever you get next :)
st_burt
Solid response, thank you! It sounds like I won't have a lot to worry about. But I hope it ends up working out for the real enthusiasts out there.
Will this drop come again within a year?
Got my shipping notif, thanks massdrop team!
And does this support usb-c to usb-c?
OldCat
According to @lifeonadklein's post from a week ago, no: "Cons: Not "true" usb-c. Only connects to USB-A, will not connect to other usb-c devices such as new MacBooks."
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gk64-custom-mini-mechanical-keyboard/talk/1965371
really good value it seems. Curious any usage experience, guys?
Hi all,
I planned to buy this keyboard without key caps. Would the key caps from kbdfans here would work?: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/gk64-xd64-dz60-keycaps
I see that on the 2 key caps options in the massdrop options that you do not see any letter/digit/symbol underneath the key cap. However, on the kbdfans key caps, there are present.
I am accurate saying that the key caps from kbdfans will work with the Function/Shift operation to get access to the letter/digit/symbol?
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slamarre
I want the cherry blossom keycaps but not the board. Can I pay you $20 to get the caps and have you send it when it ships in May?
Stagione
Sorry. I already ordered without keycap. BTW, it is $30 not $20. The text says $20 but at checkout it is $30. Then you would need to add $10 for shipping. I suggest that you ask other members but be ready to pay $40-$50...
Does this keyboard have NKRO capability?
leomilo
Yeah I think it does but anything past five is good
where can I get keycaps for this layout aside from the set on kbd fans?
UraWitcherCiri
Here at MD, for example: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-keycap-set
Any Groupbuy starting around $100 for base and modifiers should be fine. You may have to look for childkits to cover the 2u and 1u shift and the 1u modifiers at bottomrow. The trashcan (delete) may need a novelty or not correctly labeled keycap if you stick to this layout.
Makami
Looks like Samuri set should be ok
I just leave this picture as answer to my own question.
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Makami
Is there a software for Mac OS?
OldCat
No, not to my knowledge. You would need access to windows at least once, like virtual machine, family, friends ... to set it up to your liking. https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/6k14fg/gbgk64_software_and_firmware_update_and_new/
@XiK
an important question for me, is the Fn key still fixed or free to reprogramm by now? Right Ctrl/altgr has to be next to the spacebar for me, otherwise i would mistype all the time typing ä, ö, ë ... with Eurkey layout. I've found that information at reddit, but its seven month old.
On a sidenote, i did download the software and installed it on a windows machine to take a look. Of course the only message i get is no device connected, therefore no "preview" of options. This is absolutly fine! But that damm software does autostart every reboot, looking at startup in the taskmanager, nothing can be found to be disabled. Looking at services, i can't find anything too, but i havn't looked to close. This is an odd behaviour for me.
You can get a GK64 kit with full choice of Gaterons (ie clears, yellows, greens) for 155 USD, or cherrys for 165 USD on KBDfans. This doesn't seem like a great drop to me unless you really want to wood case over the aluminum case (or the keycaps, I guess, even though those are easily sourceable from elsewhere) and more importantly, are willing to wait until May when it ships to you and probably June by the time you actually receive it.
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keyboard/products/gk64-mechanical-keyboard-64key?variant=41021831181
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Agreed, and i do know that page. There is a reason why i dislike some of their actions, behaviour ... They're behaving to amateurish to often, maybe they've become to big to fast. Another big problem of some faults is their position of being only the middleman and outsourcing like shipping/fullfillment. Not enough controll of processing.
About massdrama, only bad news is good news, and it wouldn't be a problem to launch amazondrama, bestbuydrama, appledrama ...
swells
This is 149 I think? Lower than The 165 regular price anyway
is the left shift and space bar standard size?
hugi
Overall width = 15u(nits) bottomrow = 5x1 + 3x 1.25 + spacebar = 15; spacebar = 6.25 standard left shift + 13x1 = 15; left shift = 2u non standard
These keycaps are almost killing me. Separate drop pls!
Lattie
I would buy the crap out of those keycap in an instant
Bought it during the kbdfans groupbuy last September. Then contacted the manufacturer about the software afterwards. Fast replies, but gave up dealing with him after some back and forth. -no motivation to improve the POS Windows software, as ‘it is good enough’. (It is not) -wont open source the bios (no tmk/qmk support)
built is solid, but just like with Anne Pro, you have to rely on ahk and Karabiner for customization and you will still end up with a dead key reserved by the keyboard.
Gunz
You just don't understand, the software is better than QMK! /s
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lifeonadklein
Thanks for point that out to others, I bought this board and then instantly regretted after I installed their software...
Okay, here's my input on this board. Bought this a couple months back from kbdfans site. Been using it since with a few "mods". Pros and cons are as what others stated. Anyways...
Pros: Hot swap. Bought it with the Kailh box switches. Tried whites, browns and blacks in a mix switches layout. Now, it's with Gat silent blacks and reds. Going to try out their Aliaz and original Cherry silents next. So, you get the idea. Hot swaps, no de-soldering needed.
Type-C. No more wrong side up.
Weight. It's a fairly heavy case. I'd never owned an aluminuum case board before but comparing to a full size ikbc F108 and some other full size boards, this came as a surprise to me. I mean it's only 60%.
Cons: Stabilizers. The stock plate mounted stabs are really rattly. Now it's snipped + band-aid + lubed. Got some original Cherry stabs on the way. Before the fix.
After the fix.
Software. Garbage. Left shift. I didn't notice the left shift until i want to change the caps. Imagine my face when none of my other keycaps would fit. Okay hope this help in anyway possible. Cheers.
Anyone getting the Purple (not cherry blossom) caps willing to resell them to me when this ends? Or is there somewhere that has just the caps for sale? I bought this exact board on aliexpress, haven't recieved it yet, but I also want them for my macropad :c
The keycaps look so good and bad at the same time O_o
With this PCB being hotswappable, you can probably build this on your own for a little less and give yourself a wider variety of switches. You can get this PCB on KBDfans.
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I think it comes down to the key caps. The key caps included with these makes this a good deal.
This drop is super good value... 119 for a set without caps
Those keycaps look diseased
I love that this has hot swappable switches. question tho-- when this is a feature, does this make the keyboard more fragile? like if you dropped the keyboard (ahh!) or bumped it, would it dislodge the switches?
serene
I haven't seen any hot swap boards that were that fragile, no. The switches themselves are held in place with a plate at the front, rather than the leads at the back.
serene
I've never had that issue with either hot swappable board i've owned, but a tight cap can pull the switch out when trying to remove the cap only (not a big deal)
A few notes on this - I bought one of these a few months ago, and it does have a 2u left shift, instead of the standard 2.25u, so keep that in mind. The whole bottom row is shifted over .25 of a keyspace to make room for a 1u right shift , up arrow, and del keys. Personally, I didn't notice any affect on my typing because of this though. I use a DSA keyset on it because it's much easier to source a 2u key for the left shift, since DSA row profiles are all the same. Though if you use a sculped keyset, the 2u "0" key is the right row profile for the shift, but it will probably be the wrong color compared to the rest of your mods.
Other notes, the backlighting is fantastic (I like the waterfall effect :-P), but the software might not the easiest to figure out. I was able to change the backlighting styles, and bind them to the 3 function keys available for it, but haven't done anything else.
Also, hot swapping is great, and lets you try out different switches and frankenstein mods on your switches very easily. That alone was worth the price to me, as I am always thinking up new combinations of springs and stems in different housings to try.
The hot swap sockets do take some space up on the back of the PCB though, so this board doesn't fit right in some 60% cases (if you were thinking about swapping). Once you know what to look for, you shouldn't have any issues though. I made a quick video about mine here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifmmQtl-STA
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mike-y
Hey, what are the key caps used in this keyboard? looks amazing.
OldCat
Those are signature plastics (pimpmykeyboard.com) DSA keycaps. I got the alphas (random white and light gray) from a grab bag I bought a while back. The purple caps are blanks from a TKL modifier set, and the yellow caps are from the bounty-hunter set sold on prime keyboards (they were left over from the other board I built).