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Glycine KMU Automatic Watch

Cloaca

1906

Oct 19, 2017

Pet peeve: automatics with small second complications. If I pay for 5 or 6 or 8 beats per second, I want to see the tippity-tip of a nice long sweeping second hand.
Question: Why so many Glycine drops? (I'm not complaining.)

WatchDoctor

847

Oct 19, 2017

CloacaLike my favorite train charter always says: "That's right"!

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NikoToscani

Oct 23, 2017

CloacaI think Glycine is dumping inventory for some reason I can't quite figure out - they're deeply discounted all over the internet. Can't bode well for future values. I bought a combat sub for a great price a few months back and am now experiencing buyers remorse - it's a fine watch but the brand seems to be shitting all over their own reputation with such deep discounts.

WatchDoctor

847

Oct 23, 2017

NikoToscaniNot sure why you feel that way. They are not that much cheaper than similar brands, e.g. you can find Hamilton Khaki (great great Swiss Made automatic watch) for under $400. As a matter of fact, $400 or $500 is a lot of money and I don't see why a solid automatic watch should cost more than that. There are many places in the world where you'd make less than that in return for a whole month worth of honest hard work.

NikoToscani

Oct 24, 2017

WatchDoctorI don't see how your worldview has any connection whatsoever to the topic being discussed but hey, keep standing on that soapbox and yelling into the wind.

WatchDoctor

847

Oct 24, 2017

NikoToscaniAppreciate your feedback and you are right about my worldview not directly related. Didn’t mean to offend you and sorry if you took any. Anyhow what I’m trying to say is that brands like Glycine are solidly built great watches and the price is right for what they are and proportional. On the other hand prestige category watches (SS Daytona going for 12k+) are collectibles and/or unique fashion statements, hence they command a price that is much higher.

Cloaca

1906

Oct 24, 2017

WatchDoctorI suspect that there is a certain amount of "retail price maintanance" (i.e., price fixing) going on in the upscale watch industry. I don't think that this kind of vertical price fixing is necessarily illegal in the United States, but it probably is elsewhere, and I think that even in the U.S. it could be tricky if legally challenged. But rich watch buyers are probably not sympathized with that much by federal antitrust enforcers or the FTC. Maybe Massdrop could end up as the plaintiff in a civil case (great PR fo them): Massdrop v. Rolex.

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WatchDoctor

847

Oct 24, 2017

CloacaHaha. That will be funny. I don’t however think there is a legal basis for that. It’s a matter of supply and demand. Why would diamond be so expensive if it weren’t rare? Also it’s not limited to watches. E.g. check out Hermès charging $700 for a calfskin watch strap. It’s a prestigious luxury brand and can command that price. Such is the cost of luxury.

SkipPp

278

Mar 2, 2018

WatchDoctorActually, fine watchmaking is quite expensive. That is why Grand Seiko charges as much as Swiss brands, and Credor charges as much as high-end Swiss brands (ultra-high end hand-finishing costs a fortune, and third world sweat shops cannot do this). At this price point I would only consider Seiko. They make the best stuff under $1k USD. When it comes to better quality watches, you really have no choice but to spend serious money. In the old days one could buy vintage, but even that stuff costs a fortune now. I had a beautiful old Eterna chrono I bought for a few hundred dollars 20 years ago, and sold during the recession for $1k thinking I made a killing. I cannot find one now for less than $4k. Again,if you are the kind of guy who cannot tell the difference between a BMW and a Fiat, then buy all the Chinese-made "Swiss" watches you want. That said, you might as well buy them directly from China, customized, for half the price.

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mrvco

500

Mar 2, 2018

WatchDoctorClearly there is a big mismatch between Glycene's list pricing and what they sell most (if not all) of their watches for online. Maybe Glycene has retail channels whose customers don't cross-shop other brands and don't pay attention to online pricing? Or more likely Glycene has abandoned retail entirely and the angle is purely $x,xxx watches at a quarter or a third the 'original' price now.
I would never have paid anything near claimed list for my Combat 6 Classic, but it was a solid value at 1/4 of that price.

NikoToscani

Mar 2, 2018

WatchDoctorDiamonds are actually not rare at all - this is an open secret in the jewelry business. If diamonds were handled in a true free market, there would be a glut and the price would plummet. To keep prices high, the flow of diamonds into consumer outlets is strictly controlled by DeBeers. They create a situation of false scarcity to fix the price.

Erik1

255

May 15, 2018

NikoToscaniIf you are buying watches worried about "future values" you will need to move up to brands several magnitudes more expensive then Glycine. I buy watches because I love them and its an addiction. I have to say that every Glycine I have has been fantastic in quality, workmanship, appearance and feel. Everytime the just seem right and feel right. I don't care that Invicta bought them (although I have absolutely no interest in Invicta) and I don't care that the prices are low right now. Great! As long as each one I buy thrills me as much as the last.

Erik1

255

May 15, 2018

SkipPpSeiko quality is not anywhere near Glycine dollar for dollar. And I love Seiko. But to get a Seiko as nice as the Glycines I have you are going to pay more than I have for the glycines. Example the Glycine Moon Phase at $380. A Seiko of that quality and with that complication (I don't think they make one, anyway) would be >$1k

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NikoToscani

May 16, 2018

Erik1At no point did I mention purchasing a Glycine as an investment. I tend to flip watches if I don't bond with them after a few months. For example, I no longer own the Glycine I posted about above. So the comment about "value" was with that in mind - perhaps I should've been clearer. Not looking to profit but not looking to take a bath, either.

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Erik1

255

May 16, 2018

NikoToscaniOK. Fair enough. But how much of a bath could you possibly take on a $389 watch? I wouldn't buy this one because it is big enough to eat a piece of cake off of it,

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SkipPp

278

May 16, 2018

Erik1I am not sure if we are speaking of the same thing. I mean case finishing, dial quality,..., not features or style. I own Swiss watches that easily outclass Seiko, but Seiko delivers on raw quality for price (I specifically mean the Presage series). They do not a moonphase, nor do they have the style of Glycine, but I do feel that the case and dial quality beat them at the same price point (compared to an equivalent Presage model).

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