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feln
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Oct 29, 2014
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Seeing as the features-poll (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/infinity-keyboard-features) is just about to reach 200 votes, will Massdrop consider adding LED support for this drop even though there are only 2 days left? Or will LED support have to wait until the next Infinity drop?
Oct 29, 2014
tohojo
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Oct 30, 2014
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felnLED support probably requires a different PCB w/ 2 extra through holes per switch
Oct 30, 2014
Sygaldry
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Oct 30, 2014
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tohojoThis is the correct response.
They'd have to redesign the PCB and add routes for the LEDs, which, I would imagine, is a ton of work.
Adding an option for a flat plate is much simpler than redesigning the entire PCB.
Would not expect LEDs on this board until next drop (or later)
Oct 30, 2014
SeanHow
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Nov 1, 2014
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SygaldryAnd that's when I'll jump in
Nov 1, 2014
dumle29
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Nov 1, 2014
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SygaldryPCB designer here. Adding leds is fairly easy. Adding leds would require you to add an led for each switch. One would probably string them into strings of leds, so that one wouldn't need to add a resister for each led, and then all that would be needed would be a transistor for controlling the power (just control them all together)
Nov 1, 2014
Henkr
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Nov 2, 2014
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dumle29If LEDs should be added they should be RGB and controllable individually, I know this a lot of work but the Infinity Keyboard is a premium product for enthusiasts, and It would look amazing with different colors around key groups depending on layers.
Otherwise I don't see the point of buying another kit.
Nov 2, 2014
wes1099
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Nov 2, 2014
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HenkrRGB leds would not work with standard cherry mx switches. You would need the cherry mx RGB switches which are a corsair exclusive until 2015.
Nov 2, 2014
Henkr
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Nov 3, 2014
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wes1099The Mathias switches have a clear hull so there will be no problem with those. And what is so special about cherry rgb, just put a rgb led in front of a normal cherry.
Nov 3, 2014
wes1099
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Nov 3, 2014
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HenkrYou obviously don't know much about the given topic. One does not simply put an rgb led in front of a standard cherry mx switch. Examine an RGB LED and a cherry mx switch and you will see why. The RGB switches are designed so the LED will be mounted directly on the circuit board underneath the switch (from my understanding), then it shines through the clear switch casing. This design of the RGB switches also helps the LEDs last longer since they are less prone to ESD damage due to the fact that they are sandwiched between the switch and circuit board. Matias switches sit flush with the circuit board and have no mounting points for LEDs so I do not see how that would work either.
Nov 3, 2014
asdflord
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Nov 4, 2014
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wes1099RGB LEDs would be possible with cherry switches, but you'd have to modify each switch to do it; definitely way more work for both designer and assembler.
Nov 4, 2014
Henkr
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Nov 4, 2014
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wes1099I won't deny I don't know much about the subject but according to Mathias homepage they have led support and they mention rgb led. I have however designed some pcbs and a 4 layer PCB have enough space for that many rgb leds controlled individually. [img:5.dro.jpg]
Nov 4, 2014
SuperBobKing
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Nov 4, 2014
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wes1099Not all rgb leds are surface mount. There are through-hole ones like the leds commonly used with Mx switches. I am not sure if they are the same size as a regular led, so it is possible they could be too big to fit. They also require two more leads for control, but it looks like the switches just have a slot so I don't think it would be an issue. I don't have a switch I can check though, so I can't be sure.
EDIT: I just managed to find a video that shows the interior bottom of a switch clearly, and there are two holes for the leads so rgb won't work. It should be possible to mod some switches to work with them by making a slot where the holes are, but I don't think it would be worth the effort, and definitely isn't suitable for a "production" kit like this. If you really want backlighting just use some EL wire. It would probably look awesome around the edges of an acrylic case, especially a frosted one.
Nov 4, 2014
wes1099
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Nov 4, 2014
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SuperBobKingYes, I know about through hole RGB LEDs...
Nov 4, 2014
SuperBobKing
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Nov 5, 2014
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wes1099It just seemed like you were describing surface mount.
Nov 5, 2014
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