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Kaihua Kailh Box Switches

Kaihua Kailh Box Switches

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I am hoping these are from the original batch I ordered from MD.. those where smooth as silk. I have heard box switches are kinda hit and miss in the quality control department. I am really excited thought either way. I am a HUGE mega fan of box blacks was looking for a set of switches for my K-Type.. to replace some other's I was trying and didn't care for.
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I already sold mine it was partially how I paid for my K-Type made think 100 dollar's off them.. which reduced my K-Type's price to 100 bucks.. which was more then good deal for that board.
HotRoderX
Not a bad idea...
I am planning on building my first keyboard with Box Browns, 96%pcb and cherry profile keycaps (wanted to do it with Kailh low profile switches but the choice and availability of components is almost non existent). Could someone give some advice regarding good components that would be compatible with these switches.
Nikhil_V
Melody96 group buy happening now
"Box Blue (white colored)"
What on earth is this silliness? There is no such thing as "box blue". I guess they want people to associate them with Cherry MX blues but the click mechanism in box white is completely different. It also feels and sounds completely different, and it's a *better* switch in my opinion because of it.
"Blue" is not a generic term for clicky switch, it refers (or at least used to...) to a specific design. Stop relabeling colors. What's even worse is there there exist two real variants of this design with blueish colors: the pale blue and navy box switches. So what are you going to call those, eh Massdrop?
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Kevadu
I have the pale blue from Massdrop and they did in fact call them pale blue.
Kevadu
I really love my Box Blues!
Does anyone know of a way to silence / dampen the upstroke on these switches? I have some browns and it looks like they're impossible to dampen because of how they're constructed.
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I have seen the inside of them, and torn my fingers open getting the little buggers open. While you could add small rubber dampers on to the slider (using this method https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5qmywo/a_relatively_simple_method_of_silencing_any/ ), it's probably easier and better just to go with another switch, one that's either silenced or supports silencing.
travdump
Wow. This is exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you for taking the time to dig it up and share with me.
Box Whites are so good they make any clicky switch with a spring sound absolutely sickly and disgusting in comparison.
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They were in stock at KBDfans this morning but have evaporated since
jswagner
I know they will be back on Novelkeys somewhere around this time, so I'm holding out for the announcement
In light of the previous issues with cancelled orders and such, I would suggest that people skip this unless Massdrop can assure otherwise. I was one of those who was left out in the cold.
Massdrop said that they had got in the shipment and KITTED them in the fulfillment center and then never shipped? Lies and NO justification was given. I really like this site and have bought TONS of stuff here, but given how hard these are to get ATM, I just wouldn't believe them and would REQUIRE some kind of response from MD about the previous GB.
chilofthehorn
If you really want them and don't want to get it from MD, you can get them from Novelkeys: https://www.novelkeys.xyz/product/kailh-box-switches/
He recently stocked White's and Red's again and is a stand-up guy.
chilofthehorn
After the cancellation of the order, I just bought in Aliexpress and I received it yesterday, it just took 3 weeks to arrive. And if you consider the added shipping fee, there is no savings on this drop, and you will cost a few more $ plus the added waiting time.
give box burnt orange!
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areid
I am awaiting the same, but I don't think there has been any followups on the stem issues they had which prevented them from being in the previous BOX heavy drop.
areid
Me too my friend, me too
GIMME THICC CLICKS
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I like the plans for the 2nd and 3rd. I'm not too big a fan of linears but I do see why some are.
I currently have an MF68 with Box Pale Blues, stickerbombed plate, and Tai-Hao Anemone keycaps; a JJ40 with Kailh Speed Copper's and KBDFans PBT DSA Blank Keycaps, an IBM Model M, and two Apple Extended Keyboard M0115's.
I don't have an endgame in mind, specifically, but I do have some builds planned-ish:
Sentraq S65-X w/Purple Plate and BOX Navy's, warm white 1.8mm LEDs, and GMK Laser Gaijin + Blocknet + Mitowaves. Alps64 board with Hasu's Alps64 PCB from Geekhack group buy and Orange ALPS harvested from one of the Apple Extended Keyboard M0115. I will be using the AEK keycaps and a quality wood keyboard case. I prefer 65%'s over 60%'s but I don't know if Hasu ever plans on a 65% PCB so this will do. Tada68 with Red Aluminum 5 degree case and either 67g or 78g Zealios. I like heavier weights more but some people say there are differences besides just spring weight between the 4 variations so I'll need to test those more. Not sure what keycap set I'd use on this. I'm adamant about the red aluminum case but haven't seen any keycap sets I'd be interested on pairing with it. I haven't looked around much yet, though.
I also have a Gherkin on the way and am participating in the Nightfox and Contra group buys. Not too sure about the Nightfox anymore because of an etched in FCC label that the recently shipped Kickstarter Whitefox's have. I contacted support about this and will likely cancel if it has that label etched in on the Nightfox.
TanvirK175
Sounds good! I might replace silent blacks with silent zealios after reading the reviews. Now I'm using Cherry Clears and Silent blacks on a single keyboard depending on the mood :) But my preference is tactile over linear.
I had a tester of R4/R5 zealios and they were all identical except for the springs. Supposedly now 78g version is the most tactile so that's what I got, we shall see.
This seems like a really good price this makes it .25/switch for 120 or .28/switch for 70
Ja4341
KBDfans has them for $.25 a switch right now in the 68 pack. Everyday retail price.
Visionaire
Yeah there's really no reason not to buy from KBD. I pay a little extra and choose their $15 FedEx express and get it to Canada within a few days.
Just a thought - what if Kaihua realized that they could make more profit selling the switches to people like flashquark instead of selling them to MD and thus cancelled all the orders?
Lucky I got a refund. Fuck you, Massdrop.
Okay all orders are cancelled... https://flashquark.com/product/kailh-box-switches/ Buy them here
Now I am OUTRAGED!! My status is now CANCELED. What do you mean CANCELED?????? I have not requested any cancelation!! And I also have not received a refund.
Massdrop, clear this up or I am going to do whatever is in my power to administer the deserved punishment!!!
alexvoda
After reading Nurupism's comment below ( https://www.massdrop.com/buy/kaihua-box-switches/talk/1901807 ) I checked my email and I see I have received the same message. I see a refund will be sent out in 2 days and I should receive a coupon. Thank you for that. Still, Massdrop, you need better communication. If I didn't check my email there was no where I could have found this out. You have a notification system on the website. There could have been a message about this over there. And please stop with the lies!!! An order can either be at the supplier, on its way to your wearhouse, at your wearhouse, on its way to clients or at the client. It can not at the same time be "done kitting at our fulfillment center" and "backordered by the vendor". Propper communication would have gone a long way.
I was initially planning to get the Planck Light but after this series of lies I am not sure I will ever purchase anything from Massdrop anymore. Or at least until I start hearing reports of satisfied customers.
And just to be extra clear, the delay (though annoying) is not the main issue, the lack of communication and the misinformation is.
alexvoda
Same for me. Planck light will come directly from Olkb.
I contacted the massdrop support, and they anwered me with this: It has been brought to our attention that the item you ordered has been backordered by the vendor, and we do not know when more inventory will become available. That said, I'm truly sorry for any inconvenience this might cause and I can completely understand if you choose to not wait any longer. If you would like I can move forward with processing a full refund of this order, you just need to let me know if you want to take that route.
It's gonna be a long wait for these switches I guess...
ghallink
Looks like massdrop is not able to tell us about whatever is keeping them from shipping. I imagine something like this to be an easy thing to do, but it somehow is not. Maybe massdrop could enlighten me here.
... and I want my switches so that I can build my keyboard that I have been waiting to build for so long.
stepi
And just to be clear here: I currently do not feel like a valued customer and this failure of communication already has an impact. I did not enter the planck-drop like I indended to do.
Hey guys, switches should be done kitting at our fulfillment center, look out for shipping notifications! Sorry about the delay.
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XiK
My order was just cancelled due to the switches "backordered by the vendor". I don't think I understand, are the switches not at the fulfillment center? Why would the backorder have any impact on my order?
XiK
The irony of this post is ridiculous... Massdrop likely never even got the switches in the first place and thus didn't ship to anyone so how would they have been kitted in your fulfillment center?
Obvious much?
Massdrop. This needs better communication! What is the problem with this drop? Are the switches at your warehouse? This is now long overdue, and I might get into trouble because it looks now that I will be on vacation when these switches arrive in my home country. Afaik if there is nobody to pay the import taxes, the package will get sent back/destroyed. So the delay is already critical and there is not even a word from you.
So uh... Are they ready to be shipped yet? I realize it's a holiday week and all, but really? You're a month overdue here. This isn't killing me to not have them, and I'm going to wait, because I've been innit for this long, but c'mon.
Hello guys,
Apologies about the delay for this drop as our warehouse encountered some severe back up issue. Switches should be in line to be kitted this week,; if you wish to not wait for this order - please contact our support team through your transaction page and request for a cancellation.
Thanks for the support guys.
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XiK
I'm with @chilofthehorn that phrasing "ask for a refund blah blah..." is quite harsh to read. I quickly delete the email I receive last month about this drop when I read that.
XiK
Come ON.
I have to thank massdrop for delaying my first mechanical keyboard build with an entire month! Well done!
But I'm serious. I ordered these in august, and I knew that I'd have to wait till october or november. But this is just stupid that they haven't shipped yet.
Why have we received no update on this Groupbuy? The ship date passed some time ago and no update as to where the product is or anything. Very Odd.
chilofthehorn
Also sent an inquiry to Customer Support for some answers. No response as of yet.
And another week passes... Was really hoping to have these by now.
Still no update? Original ship date is long gone...
Any ideas about the ship date?
Got some Kailh Box White switches while back specifically to see if SA profile keycaps will be less wobbly. Initial tests was promising so I wanted to try it out on a full keyboard. Well, GMMK with hot-swap socket arrived today so I filled it with Kailh Box Whites then topped it with Maxkey SA Ninja keyset.
Result: Wow! SA profile is unbearably wobbly -- I seem to be more sensitive than most folks -- on Cherry MX, Gateron as well as normal Kailh switches but they're solid on Kailh Box Whites. And thicker and deeper SA keycaps **muffled** loud clicks and pings into pleasing water drop sounds.
I heard great things about Kailh Box Heavy Burnt Orange but NovelKeys is out of stock so ordered some Kailh Box Browns instead. w00t!
How smooth are the whites compared to the Kailh Bronzes?
Snorelax
Even smoother and more stable!
can anyone tell me if these are plate or PCB mount? I am looking at these and the add leads me to think its either or. but looking at the switches they look plate from what I know of keyboards Thanks.
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HotRoderX
You can easily make pcb mount switches to plate mount switches by cutting 2 plastic legs off. It's kinda hard to use plate mount switches in plateless keyboard, but it's not impossible if you're going to use 2-leg-LEDs (monochrome) or 4-leg-LEDs(RGB) . Those LEDs could hold switches quite firm. But its hard to align switches neatly.
HotRoderX
Thanks everyone I really think these will work now just gotta decided do I want to use these in my first build or the switches I originally got! I am really wanting to try these thought if there as smooth at Gat Blacks with no wiggle they will be my end game switch.
any problem with replacement keycaps? like sa ?
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i suppose yes the box are the same height as the stem
sanriohdd
Some artisans won't work though. Most will, but occasionally they use too big a stem.
Might anyone mind sending me just one of these in an envelope (in the US), if someone can spare it for me to try out? Just reply here and we'll go from there. Big thanks in advance! This would be very helpful >.<
Typhoon859
You can buy these currently from Flashquark, Novelkeys or a few other vendors in small quantities.
Do they work with O-rings? It seems like the O-ring would end up inside the box, preventing it from acting as a sound/shock absorber.
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Nice, yeah that was my thinking. If they're successful I might cut a few thousand extra to share around :)
erincalling
I have the Kailh Box Brown and I can confirm that the switch work just fine with O-ring.
Preonic drop when???
BiggestMac
That's all I remembered from this page, Preonic.