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KWZ Iron Gall Ink (3-Pack)

KWZ Iron Gall Ink (3-Pack)

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Got mine in and using the blue #3 today. Love the VERY dark color and watching it darken as it dries/oxidizes. Very pleased with the ink. It does write very wet on cheap (copy) paper so I don't recommend it on that. On heaver paper it's a very, very nice ink. Pleased as punch so far.
As a user of Konrad's inks, permit me to add a personal comment. First of all, when you purchase his iron gall inks, Konrad includes an instruction sheet (usually,) that gives you all the caveats for iron gall. Please note that this is ink made the way ink used to be made, with ground up gall nuts (usually from oak trees,) iron filings, and a few other ingredients. This ink was in popular use when quill pens were the norm. These were disposable, and so any potential for harm to the pen itself was irrelevant. With your expensive fountain pens, there is, or at least, may be an issue. Iron gall inks have potential corrosive properties. Konrad notes that he formulates his inks to avoid or minimize these properties, but the potential is still there. If you're filling a good pen, one that is valuable or means something to you, with iron gall ink, give the pen a shake now and then, and by no means permit the ink to be in the pen longer than a week to ten days. At that time, flush out your pen thoroughly and carefully clean it. Water works perfectly well. You can then refill your pen with iron gall ink, as long as you continue to follow the regular flushing procedure. It's great ink--just be careful when you use it. There's a reason why we switched to water based dye or pigment inks, and as always with new technology, something's lost and something's gained. If you buy it, enjoy this truly great ink.
Be Aware that some of the KWZI Iron Gall Inks had something in them that did NOT react well with the TWSBI DEMONSTRATOR Pens. The interaction caused something like etching on the clear barrels. I believe KWZI subsequently modified something in the ink so this wouldn't happen. Which ink is this? Do a google search of the internet to learn more.
STINGFAN
I heard that the Iron Gall line in general has a tendency to disrupt pens if unused for a while. Here's a good description of the rundown from Vanness.
https://vanness1938.com/collections/kwz-iron-gall-inks
Super tempting. I heard the Iron Gall line isn't one to leave for a long while in the pen, but I ordered a sample of one of the inks and might be tempted to order full bottles.
Why charge us $1.99 more?
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I received my ink today (6/9) - so if you're looking out for tracking, you'll just get a surprise. I received it along with another Massdrop order.
So estimated ship date was about a week ago...any idea when the actual ship is going to be?
As a short follow-on...flow problems existed with both the green and the blue, in their first pens. I put the green into the Custom Heritage that had only seen the orange, and it's been excellent. Even after sitting for a week or 10 days, no start-up issues, no flow problems.
I am going to pick up 2 more Custom Heritage 92s...they have both blue and orange demonstrators. :) Color coding! And they write very nicely, AND the price just can't be touched, as long as you perform your due diligence.
So, I've just loaded up ink #3 from the recent drop. The 3 inks: orange, green #2, blue #5. I intend to restrict the iron galls to specific pens, and those pens will be demonstrators. I want to know when the ink level is low.
So: the orange was loaded into a Pilot Custom Heritage 92, brand new for the purpose. Great pens, great price buying through Amazon from Japanese sellers. The 92 is a piston filler. Perfect! No skipping, no hard starting throughout, until the ink level started to get very low. The color starts as a burnt orange, more or less, but darkens to a medium brown. Still a nice color, and one I like...just be aware of it. If you want something like the peel on an orange or tangerine...this isn't your ink.
Next up, green #2 in a Sailor demonstrator. I think it's a 1911 midsize, but it's been a long time. This is a converter filler. Wrote wet, altho dried nicely. Flow stopped after a couple pages; ink didn't flow to the feed well. This is often a viscosity issue; capillary action blocks flow in a narrow-ish converter. Sailor's converter isn't stepped like a standard cartridge; that shape is notorious for capillary blockage because it's so narrow. It could also be a difference in the feed. I cleaned out a Pelikan 200 amber demonstrator, which will get the orange later, and I'll refill the 92 with the green to try again later.
Green #2 is a fairly dark green initially and after drying. It also has substantial blue tones. It's a quiet kind of green. Due to the flow issues, I flushed this out early.
Blue #5 went into a blue demonstrator Pelikan 200 with a steel medium italic nib...I believe I got it custom cut from Pendemonium. I just filled this, and I'm about a page in. The 200 is a piston filler, and like the Heritage, the flow is fine so far. This blue is fairly bright. The closest match I can think of, would be a Swiss blue topaz.
None of these show much shading. I haven't tried the water test yet either.
Hi all,
We always want members to get the best price on an item, even if it's not from us. In this case, we've been able to negotiate a lower drop price if 30 or more people join.
To give everyone a chance to join the drop, we've extended it through the end of next week. This will not affect fulfillment time by more than a day, if that. Thanks for speaking up!
Van-ness was cheaper for me in NY
Jack
this is better at the lowest drop price.
Quick question; can you confirm the age of the samples shown? Are they samples in which the inks have dried or their appearance when first applied to paper? I know there was a simpler way to say this but it's been a long day! 🙃🙂
Shadowphd
The photo of our ink swab sheet was taken the same day as the sample was made. IIRC I made the sample up in the morning, and then it was shot in the early afternoon that day. Hope this helps!
This drop makes no sense for people who living in U.S . Just buy from vanness and it cost less than here.
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I love you guys again XD
BADBOY
Actually about $1.40 less to do massdrop with tax and shipping, once 30 people sign up. Vanness shows up at pen shows, so in my mind supports them. Give Vanness the sale.
Massdrop should really just concentrate on items where they offer a significant discount . Greater than 20% over amazon or well know local sellers.
non iron gall please!
tskiller
We're working on it. :)
After shipping these cost more than buying from other retailers or KWZ direct. Am I missing what the advantage is?
pod_a
Thanks for flagging this, we always want members to get the best possible price, even if it isn’t through us. We were able to work with the vendor though, and have negotiated a better price for the community when 30 people join the drop.
i purchased directly from KWZ and got great service and love the inks. Can't remember price, but shipping was a bit because ship from poland.
Are there news about shipping to Brazil? I did not buy it last time because it was not available.
Anyone from any of the previous drops care to share their experience with and thoughts on this ink? I like the history around iron gall ink, so this ink intrigues me. The fact that this ink comes in shades other than just black is a bonus.
sallen
Check the Fountain Pen Network - KWZi has almost a cult following there. Is fantastic ink and the Iron Galls are unique. Excellent behaviour and good lubrication (most Iron Galls are very dry). I personally have a bunch of them, so I won't be ordering... but go ahead and grab some, you won't be dissapointed.
sallen
KWZ ink is outstanding. Saturated beautiful colors, wet, great flow. Dries a bit slow on TR but what doeesn't? Azure #4 is my fav.
Keep in mind though, these are iron gall inks and operate a little differently than their standard offerings.
Exciting news group! We’re happy to report that all of the orders have been shipped out and are now on the way to you! Please allow 24-48 hours for tracking to get into the shipper's system and start updating.
If there’s anything else we can do to make your Massdrop experience better, feel free to contact us via “Contact Support” button in your transaction page: https://www.massdrop.com/transactions
Great news group! The vendor has let us know that the group's order was picked up and is on its way to our warehouse now. Based on the tracking provided these are scheduled to come in 12/13. Our warehouse team has been forwarded tracking info and will be standing by, ready to get these packed up and turned around as soon as they come in.
Sometimes shipments get delayed en route, not to worry as we will keep the group posted throughout the process and notify you all if anything causes delay.
Thanks for your patience and expect an update from us on 12/14 or sooner if something comes up.
We are in contact with the vendor and awaiting updated shipment estimates from them. We have a call scheduled first thing Friday morning and should get a bit more visibility in regards to when we can expect these in our warehouse. We will update the group as soon as these are on the way.
Thanks for your patience and expect an update from us on 11/30 or sooner if something comes up.
Thanks again for joining this drop! With your help we were able to make it successful for the community. We've just submitted the group's order with the vendor for the KWZ Iron Gall Ink (3-Pack) and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them directly to you! The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 12/14.
Rest assured that we we will provide you all with updated information regarding the status of your order throughout the process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 11/25.
I am interested in this ink if anyone is unhappy with it let me know.
I am going to experiment with these inks as colorants for wood projects. My thinking is that the iron gall inks should bind to the cellulose in the wood. I will likely use brushes to apply them.
For info on the safety of KWZI inks in regular fountain pens, and some advice on pen choice, cleaning etc, I'd check out http://www.sakurafountainpengallery.com/en/faq/detail/kwzi-tips-and-trick-about-fountain-pens-and-iron-gall-inks
Do Iron gall Inks like this require special treatment when used in a fountain pen? I understand they have been associated with clogging and needed very through pen cleaning when used. Is there a particular type of pen that works best with IG inks?
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Good point, Charles Duffy! I still don't think I'l risk my Pelikan Souveran 800 though. :)
Historically speaking, if course, gold is the most corrosion resistant material available, but stainless steel is a pretty good modern alternative - and these more contemporary iron gall inks are a lot less corrosive than their predecessors. Still, I won't be trusting them in my more expensive pens till I've given them a good test run in my cheaper (Fountain Pen Revolution and/or Jinhao) pens...
I own a bottle of IG Turquoise and IG Gummiberry. The color shift as it dries and bonds to the paper is really amazing to look at. As a lover of purple Ink, IG Gummiberry dries to a great looking dark purple. IG Turquoise is really unique as most Turquoise inks out there are very bright.
You do have to use the pen that you filled with the IG inks thoroughly and flush it out/clean it out thoroughly as well.
EleVen
Thanks for the info - I've ordered these two (plus Mandarin), so it's good to know they're enjoyable inks to use. I'm really tempted to double my order (to 6 inks), but not sure that's such a good idea, this close to Christmas...
Hi all, is this an easy to clean ink?
if you are referring to the store I think you are. It is free shipping for orders over $35 says their shipping tab. So it works out to $42 for 3 no shipping fees and ships USPS in a few days. At the lowest price this works out to $40.27. Slightly cheaper but longer wait. I am usually willing to pay a tiny bit more to get things sooner. I am kind of impatient :P
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I agree, I have seen and done the same for many things. If I were sold on Mandarin I would want to do the drop too but since I have no use for anything orange, I can pass and just get them sooner. I suppose it is worth it if you are getting Mandarin
Bullfly
Totally agree that if I wasn't interested in Mandarin, I would not join the drop. No reason to!!! People are funny though, I commented on that Apica notebook drop that you could buy them for the EXACT same price ($2 less actually, if you are a Prime member) on amazon, and have them in two days (or a week if you aren't a prime member), but it didn't stop the drop from being hugely popular. Meantime, that drop is still active and I already have my Apica B5 notebooks. I presume not everyone reads the comments, and not everyone checks the prices on their own before joining, as I do. I'm with GTGreat, I will buy on Massdrop for same price as elsewhere if it's a hard to get item, but otherwise, not. Who wants to wait the lengthy shipping time unless it's absolutely necessary? I've never understood either where Massdrop gets there MSRP, but it's almost never accurate (it's usually higher than what the online price is, sometimes much higher)
14*3=$42 Massdrop with tax and shipping $43.29 Did I do the math wrong?
mpechner
Actually, if it gets to the lowest drop price of $36.99 (likelyl), it will be cheaper here. Only $1.73 cheaper, but still cheaper. Also, I presume the place that sells it for $14 a bottle also charges for shipping? (they may not, not everyone does). I do know what you mean, I noted the same thing on the Apica notebook drop, that they were available a little cheaper on amazon, and you'd have them just a few days (if you have Prime Shipping). But, in the case of the Apica notebooks, they are really easy to find and buy online; in the case of this ink, even though the price difference is negligible, the difficulty in even finding the stuff online makes it seem worth it. That's my standard for Massdrop purchases: significantly cheaper than I can get it elsewhere OR item is difficult to get elsewhere. Or both.
angeles
I completely agree. And now that the lowest drop price has been reached, $36.99 + $3.28 = 37 + 3.27 = 40.27 ($1.73 savings as @angeles mentioned). Periodically, Massdrop impresses us with stuff that's very hard to find anywhere else. For the other stuff that's more readily accessible, I'm looking (hoping) for decent discounts.
Cheers.