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Machined Stainless Steel or Tungsten D20

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For weighted rolls, elegant style, and an upgrade to any gaming collection, try the Machined Stainless Steel or Tungsten D20. Made from a hunk of pure stainless steel or tungsten with a brushed finish, it’s ideal for those who like extra weight on their dice rolls Read More

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Wigdaddy

549

Mar 30, 2017

Not for gamers who tend to throw their dice across the room when frustrated or angry.

BrianXyZZy

Feb 6, 2018

I ordered two tungsten D20s from this drop, and they came in last Friday. My feelings on these I would say are mixed at best.
First off, these feel nice in your hand. Really heavy, very clunky rollers. They feel like premium dice.
The machining on the faces is good on one of the die, and OK on the other except where there is a clear groove over two of the faces where the CNC bit likely didnt lift enough. Its enough that I plan to contact MD about it for an exchange.
The stamping/engraving of the numbers on the faces is just barely passable. The font is legible, and isn't hard to read. On any specific face, the position and depth of the number stamped in is variable. They are just sort of a mess from a QC perspective.
Overall, for a tungsten die, they feel good in your hand, the execution was pretty poor overall. I would say avoid these if you can wait, get something from level up when you can afford it, they have some in stock, and their fonts don't suck...
I am still waiting on my stainless steel units to arrive, the post office seems to have lost them.

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BrianXyZZy

Feb 8, 2018

called support, sending mine back to MD for a refund. I will but a level up set.

Shazb0t

218

Feb 10, 2018

BrianXyZZyYea, that's probably your best option if you can't accept them as is. Looking at the stock photos in the other drop they have listed on here shows the same quality issues. It looks like that's just par for this manufacturer.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/metallic-dice-games-16mm-metallic-polyhedral-sets

michaelmagee

Jul 15, 2017

Man! I would love a pure silver D20

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AngryAccountant

277

Jan 15, 2018

There's three main costs in creating something like this, materials cost, machine time, and profit margin. Machining tungsten is a hell of a lot more time consuming than something as soft as .925 silver. Not to mention the ease of polishing silver as an additional machining step. Materials cost we went over, its under $20 worth. Machining time, perhaps $20, $40 on high end. Anything beyond that is profit margin. And while I'm all for having a healthy profit margin, going for over 50% profit margin on something is typically not going to sell very well, especially for a luxury item like this. Unless its considered "art", in which case that argument goes out the window. Thing is, I don't want art though, i just want a silver die to better slay werewolves and vampires with.

Axeguy

1372

Apr 1, 2018

AngryAccountantA garlic d20 for that vampire! Dreaming of a home-made cæsar salad with garlicky d20 croutons....mmm

Purdah

Jan 8, 2018

I have both the Steel and the Tungsten die, they are the same size but the steel one weighs 39.7g and the Tungsten 86.0g.
Looking up densities on line, steel does not have a fixed density but is usually in the 7-8g/cm3, whereas Tungsten is 19.3g/cm3.
This is a ratio of about 2.5 times greater density of tungsten over steel.
So as the ratio of my die is 86/39.7=2.14 it appears that either the steel is particularly dense, or the Tungsten is not Tungsten.
Anyone else picked up on this?

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Purdah

Jan 8, 2018

I am not sure about your reference to Tungsten being soft, its hardness rating (Wikipedia) is 7.5 which means it is harder than glass.
I was also suspecting that it was some sort of Tungsten alloy and agree that lower density ratio between the two die would be due to the use of a Tungsten alloy and also Lailoken point that my scales (0.1g resolution) would only allow for an indicative comparison between the two die.
Thanks for the replies.

fellowzombie

Apr 12, 2018

PurdahI think it isn't a 100% tungsten for sure because I put a strong magnet to it and it is ferrous. Where as true tungsten is not ferrous.

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TimZ

Feb 27, 2017

Is the tungesten die tungesten carbide?

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Wigdaddy

549

Nov 2, 2017

Ah, thank you for the clarification.

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Axeguy

1372

Apr 1, 2018

TimZTungsten carbide is brutally hard (HRC70+). I would imagine machining a tungsten carbide d20 would be incredibly time- and materiel-intensive...

Daed

574

Nov 16, 2016

How hard are the steel and tungsten versions? I had a solid aluminum triangular scale once... I loved it until it fell from my desk and the aluminum dented. That's unacceptable for a straight edge, and unacceptable for a die! Can it handle , say, a 3ft drop onto smooth concrete without denting?
Hardened steel would be awesome, as would tungsten carbide.

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Daed

574

Nov 17, 2016

Any idea how much force it would take for a solid chunk like this? My tungsten carbide ring stands up to a surprising amount of abuse, and it's only a couple mm thick. I was thinking that I'd rather it shatter than deform; then I won't be tempted to use a bad die! Of course, you'd have to mold/sinter it, right? Seems like machining it would be a bad time.

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Jasril

227

Nov 17, 2016

Daed don't think this tungsten die is tungsten carbide.... at least it doesn't say it is
not only that, it would suck to machine tungsten carbide
it would probably be pretty difficult to shatter a nearly spherical piece of tungsten carbide like a d20 since there are no thin points like an endmill/drill bit

hyphen

Mar 9, 2016

The international shipping fee to my country is $13.25, 78% of the price. It only weight 40g and the size is 16mm, why the shipping fee is so expensive?