There Are Pandas, and Then There Are Pandas.
And this isn't either of them! The Pandas we're talking about here, are watches, not bears. And what got me thinking about them (again) was a link posted this morning by @cm.rook who pointed a few of us to the very attractive (and not terribly priced) Yema "Rallygraph" Panda which, in it's most traditional arrangement, looks like the one on the left, but can also be had in the version on the right: The model on the left is a true Panda, while the model on the right is called a reverse Panda. The reason for that distinction is clear--Panda bears, only come in the first arrangement. Now at this point, everyone should be thinking about the most well-know Panda, The Rolex Panda, which is actually a Daytona, and among Rolex Daytonas, the most famous of which is the Paul Newman Daytona, which was famous first, because it was Paul's, and second because it sold at auction for $17.8 million (US Dollars). The story of that auction is well-known so I'll only...
Nov 8, 2019
We are making the bag affordable by using 800 fill instead of 850 (or greater) fill that EE uses on all their quilts. The change in production location was simply a necessity based on limited capacity in Winona. The profits still go to EE and the staff, even if they aren't making the bags themselves. If you want the 100% made in MN quilt or any sort of customization, EE would be happy to help you, I'm sure.
Filled with 850 goose down 10d nylon taffeta fabric made in USA 20.19oz
The quilt on massdrop is: 800-fill duck down 15d nylon taffeta fabric made in China. 22.8oz
So it is not made with as good of a fabric, it is filled with less expensive fill, and it is made in China vs USA.
It's not made of the same materiel inside or out and not hand crafted in the USA like the original.
Again, I am not saying this is a bad quilt, I just find it misleading with the description not really pointing out all of the cost saving short cuts that go into this quilt using less expensive fabric, less expensive filling.
As far as Duck vs Goose down, there is a reason that Duck down is much cheaper. One consideration is because ducks are slung lower than geese, their bellies and chests (where down comes from) tend to acquire more odor from contact with the ground. Even after washing, Duck down "can" have an odor (not saying it definitely will), especially in a damp environment. The loft of Duck down is not as good as goose down. For 800 fill that is not an much issue because they are not using the higher loft feathers anyway for 800 fill. Nothing wrong with that,,it's a fair trade off to save some money,.. but lets be honest with the listing and upfront on all of the differences in this quilt.
Duck down is more affordable because there is more supply. There is no difference in quality or loft. 800 fill is 800 fill.
What odor you talking about? What type of down are you buying that has an odor to it? This is DownTek down, the best available. It's the same 800 fill that was the base on all EE quilts up until some point last year.
EE won the Best Buy award from Outdoor Gear Lab. We have offered the exact same design with an extra 5% of fill, more durable fabric at a slight weight increase, *and* with a significant price decrease due to a smart balance of material sourcing. Some might consider ours an even better "Best Buy".
It's the design that OGL really liked, and that is why the Revelation is set apart from all other quilts.
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