Sennheiser PC37X randomly goes bad after disconnecting the cable ?
Greetings, Yesterday I was using my headset like normal with my macbook, just listening to music and on a call with people like usual, and the headset was perfectly fine. The stock wire that came with the headset is extremely long and yesterday it annoyed me very much that it kept getting tangled with itself, so I decided to see if the cable is replaceable. I pulled out the cable from the headset and saw the adapter, and looked online for a replacement. Upon plugging it back in, the audio sounded extremely muffled and washed out. Im not sure what I did wrong to make it mess up like that as I've always taken good care of it, ive had it for about 2 years and its always just been chilling on my desk, but anywho I thought the cable just went bad and ordered a replacement. The replacement came, and the issue is still persistant, so I am not sure what the issue is I've tried multiple different headsets and the issue is not with the port, and I also tried it with my windows laptop and...
Apr 23, 2024
I find no way to achieve a balanced/neutral sound on these phones. I tried amping them in case they were just really inefficient and needed some more juice. No luck. Sounds a little better but there is no balance in the sound whatsoever.
IEM Background Neutral/balanced iem's: Vsonic VC02, Ostry KC06, Westone UM Pro 20 V-shaped: Vsonic VSD3S, Vsonic VSD5 Etc: Zero Audio Carbo Tenores, Sennheiser CX6, CX300, 400
But, after 24-ish hours of pink noise and frequency sweeps (plus obsessive listening to Bon Iver's new album while falling asleep), and with my X3 set to high gain, they sound like completely different headphones. Obviously they don't have nearly the separation/extension/imaging as higher-tier audiophile gear, but I think you're doing less audio-experienced folks a bit of a disservice by overstating how mediocre the RE-00s sound to you. Paired with an entry-level amp and high-quality audio files, the RE-00 is certainly (in my opinion) an excellent first step through the audiophile door. Sure, I'd love for the bass to be a little punchier and for the lower-mids to have a little more separation and impact, but the resolution and clarity these provide from the upper-mids and above is 100% worth all of my $35.
With entry level gear (hell, even mid-fi stuff), you're just not ever going to get a perfect marriage of detail and separation across the entire frequency spectrum. (If you're reading this, and that's what you were expecting, I heartily welcome your wallet to the dangerous world of headphone buying.) Unless you can afford to spend $1,000+ on flagship/top-tier cans, you'll obviously always be making trade-offs. I can happily accept the slight lower-frequency shortcomings here, in return for such an impressive upper-range. The only conclusion I can draw from all of the negativity here is that folks were expecting $200 IEMs and/or are not plugging their snazzy new headphones into a quality source.
I'll also add that while Comply tips do increase the quantity of bass response, what detail is present gets quite blurred. I think silicone tips are definitely the way to go with these, assuming you can find ones that provide a good seal.
Speaking of which, here is a poll I created just for that purpose: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Discontinued-Headphones-for-Revival
These are the most analytical earphones you've heard?? What kind of budget have you been spending on iems? Under 40? I really wish I had a pair of Vsonic VC02s on me so I could ship them to you and you would realize how colored and unnatural the RE-00s sound. Unfortunately everything that sounds exceptionally good for the price point has a tendency to break :(
These would be acceptable at this price point if they weren't a group buy and this was like 5 years ago, but it's not. Seems like the RE-0's were tuned for the worse in this iteration.
I don't think that Vsonic VC02 is as good as or better than the Re0. Let me tell you the most balanced IEM so far. It is Etymotic ER4S and they are truly a masterpiece for me but the fit always put me off.
And I bet I've auditioned more IEMs than you so far mate. Maybe you didn't like the RE-00's sound signature but that doesn't mean they are crap. Just my 2 cents ;)
If you're trying to give some input, maybe you should try thinking a little bit longer before you post and see if your post makes any sense? Just my 4 cents :) Keep the change.
MY ASSUMPTION by the way was that you weren't experienced with NEUTRAL SIGNATURE PHONES from CHINESE BUDGET BRANDS. And you spent maybe less than $40 budget in that area based on your impressions of them and the RE-00s in comparison. It's sounding an awful lot like I hit the nail on the head...
Most of the phones you mentioned aren't even flat/neutral sound sigs anyway. (The only one I found corroborated was the Aurisonics) It's pretty clear that you don't lean towards that signature in your audio preferences.
I'm currently on Westone UM Pro 20s (Dual BA driver iems) because I was able to get them for a really good deal and enjoying them quite thoroughly. A bit less musical than the W line supposedly, but I wanted to try Pro line earphones so they would actually last me. Probably won't turn to Chinese budget brands for a while, especially after how badly the RE-00s flopped, but I would pick up another pair like the VC02 in a heart beat. They punched way above their asking price and were rumored to be discontinued because the company wanted to sell more of their top-of-the-line phones with a similar sound signature -- ones that were based on the TWFK Knowles BA drivers. Now tell me the RE-00s come anywhere near that kind of sound quality. Please?
" I do not have to listen to those chinese earphones to have an understanding of how a good pair of earphones sound like" --Yes, but you aren't exactly qualified to judge their value in terms of money based on where they stand in the market, because you haven't heard any other offerings that are comparable.
I mean if you can't hear the impreciseness of the bass response or the artificial timbre of the highs I can't help you there. The lack in sub bass quantity I believe is the culprit behind the sluggishness I am hearing. These are also compared to my reference of bass notes produced on dual balanced armature drivers so if you haven't heard that kind of bass detail, maybe you wouldn't realize just how sluggish the RE-00s are. I just chose not to grace you with a response on that front since you just brushed off my impressions as absurd. I didn't try to convince you since I can't convince somebody with such a closed mind. Would love to see your response to this one. Let's hope it's not as snobby as the other ones and you actually consider somebody who exhibits more precise articulation of their argument points as somebody who's worthy of a reasoned conversation rather than just saying "No you're wrong because I'm right." Also, you misspelled judgment.
I think the arguments I laid out are very clear and yet you fail to grasp any of it or face any of your mistakes. Yes, I won the argument. And keep laughing your butt off -- you're only making a laughing stock of yourself.
Based on the community response, I highly doubt that HiFiMAN would try to sell these in their current form to retailers to be sold at $80 to consumers. And I have my suspicions if these were built to be sold at retail at all in the first place, considering how non-consumer-friendly they are. (Inefficient; lacks portability. Basically designed to be desktop earphones) If these iem's don't go on the actual consumer market (and they were never designed to) I'm pretty sure the $80 MSRP would count as fraud. Might be worth filing a class action lawsuit if that's the case.
This whole late shipping with no compensation, no carrying case fiasco reeks of foul play.