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Massdrop x Tashi Bharucha Heat Seeker Folding Knife
01 / 19
Massdrop x Tashi Bharucha Heat Seeker Folding Knife
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Our second collaboration with Tashi Bharucha, the Heat Seeker is a production version of one of his most popular custom knives. From its skeletonized, aggressively angled handle to its wide trailing-point blade, it’s instantly recognizable Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downJonasHeineman
5987
Feb 20, 2019
Hey everyone,
This one was too good to keep all for myself, so I decided to share it with everyone. Please allow me to explain...
As the Product Manager for all of our Blades collaborations, I have the duty and privilege of making decisions about which projects we pursue. Part of my job in finding designs that we can bring to production is traveling to knife shows to check out industry trends, see what’s popular, and find new designs that we think the community will be excited to see in production.
Shows are fun - they are great places to handle knives that most people only see online before deciding to buy, meet fellow collectors and reconnect with old friends. Many people come to their first show expecting they can walk right up to any maker’s table and buy whatever piece they like. That’s true for many makers, but the most popular makers have way more demand for knives than they can make by hand and bring to shows. To avoid a stampede of the people who line up outside the door (sometimes overnight), most of the most sought-after makers try to make things more civil and fair with a lottery system. Some take names on a list, others tear decks of playing cards in half, and some even print custom tickets for each day of the show. Entries are free, but “winning” doesn’t mean you get a free knife - you just win the opportunity to buy it.
At Blade Show 2018, I was one of eight lucky people (out of about 400 entries) to win Tashi Bharucha’s lottery and I was thrilled to take home a hand-built Heat Seeker.
- This drop is limited to a maximum of 600 individually serialized units.
- Only members who join this pre-production drop will receive serialized units
- Only members who join this drop will receive a serialized aluminum Certificate of Authenticity
- Serial numbers will be randomly assigned, without regard to the order in which you join
- Please note that the Carbon Fiber version has screws on the “show” side scale instead of the lock side scale
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JonasHeineman
5987
Sep 30, 2019
We shipped a limited number of prototypes to reviewers - what channel did you post on, or buy it from? Any figure I might offer is pure speculation. Some people think prototypes are worth more than production. some people might argue less. The value is...whatever the seller and buyer agree on!
Millett
20
Oct 1, 2019
JonasHeinemanGotcha. Thanks for your input and all you do for the community. I actually don’t know which reviewer it came from, I bought it from a guy with whom I’m not really acquainted who bought it from a reviewer. There also is no certificate with it. Just s really sweet case with Bharucha and Reate patches. Anyhow I love it and that’s really the only value it needs. Thanks again, Enjoy! JM
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TashiBharucha
156
Tashi_Bharucha_Design
Feb 20, 2019
Thanks for the kind words Jonas!
I just want to add one rather important detail to that story... In lotteries, everybody dismisses ticket number one like it’s cursed and will never get drawn. Well guess what? It has just as many chances as every other number in the deck... And if you zoom into that picture, you’ll notice that Jonas got number one!
the Heatseeker is one of my fave designs and I’m so happy to get it into the hands of more than just a handful of people! Massdrop rocks!
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Davidsh331
284
Feb 22, 2019
Don't get me wrong, I am 100% in favor of relocating as many dollars in trade away from China as possible, but that means that the manufacturing companies in America have to take steps to outsource their manufacturing to places over than China. They look at one thing, the bottom line. how many folks reading this replay carry iPhones around every day? Or, for that matter, pretty much any brand of mobile phone? Are we ready to jointly and completely give up our Apple, Samsung, etc phones to push for change, and then when change is made, be willing to pay 70% more for our replacement hardware?
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Madara
29
Feb 22, 2019
Davidsh331I agree with you!! I'm not ready to give up my Chinese made iPhone but I think we have to start somewhere. The more entrepreneurs see that people care about where stuff is made the more they are willing to consider the idea of American made products.
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TashiBharucha
156
Tashi_Bharucha_Design
Feb 24, 2019
Hey guys, I get that some of you are a little upset by the lack of sharpening choil. Don’t be. There IS one but it’s subtle and that’s the way I’ve been designing my custom folders lately. I get the best of both worlds with this feature, nice flowing lines AND a recessed heel on the blade for sharpening. We’ll discuss accentuating the choil on the final version with Jonas. Just be certain that this will turn out awesome. I’m really excited about this release... Even more so than with the Prism if that’s possible ;-)
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TashiBharucha
156
Tashi_Bharucha_Design
Sep 17, 2019
That was a great and refreshing read!
Thanks for speaking up for the silent majority and I agree with all you said ;-)
Tashi
RBnumber3
112
Sep 17, 2019
TashiBharuchaHaha, I really did end up going on a pretty long rant there. I'm glad to hear that you agree with the sentiment though, also glad the knife remaind true to your design, it's perfect!
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Davidsh331
284
Mar 8, 2019
Yes, I am very aware of that. It doesn't change my opinion of the distasteful appearance of the MD logo.
Kavik
5531
Mar 8, 2019
Davidsh331Okay, but "knives that primarily advertise only the Massdrop organization, and ignore the maker almost entirely"...that seems a bit extreme, no? When the maker's (well, it's really designer in this case, not maker) logo makes up all markings on the show side, and the company who produced it has a bit of text on the backside.
What more would you have them do to draw attention to the designer?
It's way more than I've seen on other knives where a third party designer was used.
TortoiseThunder
141
Feb 22, 2019
You seem to have issues with females? Why do you think you are being funny by referring to me as a woman? You like being disrespectful to women and just an all around jerk? It's ok tough guy, get out of mommy's basement, you might even meet a girl someday...good luck.
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A community member
Feb 21, 2019
Sorry guys, the massdrop logo killed it for me.
Benjabooly
373
Feb 24, 2019
That is not what you said, you accused massdrop of rebranding things under their name when they actually did half the work to bring the item into fuition. But you do you.
Omniseed
1972
Feb 24, 2019
No that isn't what you said, and it's not just a knife by some other company with a Massdrop logo, which you seem to be struggling to understand.
Very few companies sell completely sterile luxury products, which is one of about seven reasons that you are getting this reaction.
evvignes
46
Feb 21, 2019
Just bought a like new Hinderer XM18 3.5 for the same price. A little more will get you a used large Sebenza 21 plane.
Davidsh331
284
Mar 8, 2019
evvignesYes, two different quality knives from two other quality knife makers. So what's your point?
RussB
228
Mar 8, 2019
I wish this meme would stop. He doesn't make them for firefighters, cops, and soldiers. How freaking stupid can you be to believe that?
Kavik
5531
Feb 21, 2019
I'm not sure I'm seeing the value here at this price?
Let's do a little comparison of the other 2 'higher end' MD collabs:
The Prism:
To compare to the non-cf version of this knife..
Made with the same materials, same designer, same manufacturer. Slightly smaller knife. But when people questioned the high price compared to other collabs the response was always that it wasn't so much about the materials as the huge amount of work in all the milling.
This has WAY less milling in the handle, no blade cutout to factor in, still costs $30-50 more.
The Orca:
To compare to the cf version of this knife...
Comparable size blade, give or take. Same blade material. CF on both sides vs the half and half here.
Different designer, same manufacturer.
Both at $300.
When that one dropped and people questioned the price, the answer was that most of the value in the higher priced cf version had nothing to do with the cf, it was all about the MokuTI clips and collars. People went on and on about how valuable that material is, and that it made it worth the price.
Here, we're teased with mokuTi in Jonas' knife pics, but it's not there on the production models for sale.
So, if it's essentially comparable to the Orca in materials and machining, from the same manufacturer, but doesn't have the ONE thing that people seemed to agree made that knife worth the price......what justifies a $300 price tag on this one?
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Kavik
5531
Mar 9, 2019
Well, whether or not they're ALL valued too high is a much broader conversation lol
But I figured it was the closest way to coming up with a 1:1 comparison in trying to figure out why the same company feels this one is worth more
Erik1
255
Mar 9, 2019
If you think the mfg costs on either knife materially affects the price, you are kidding yourself. The entire material for these knives is probably less than $15.
Benjabooly
373
Mar 4, 2019
Well Mr. Big dick waterson, here, the massdrop logo is much smaller than the designers here for one. That and massdrop puts up all the capitol for all the initial design and prototypes and manages all of the work for it. Not only that, but get the designer, work with them through every step, and have their own second level of QC. Feel free to look at the thresher drop where Mike Gavik calls out everyone like you and explains exactly why massdrop's name should be the FIRST on the list on makers for these knives. For future arguments, don't make shitty what if's like "if the MD logo must change", because no one said it had to and it shows you are grasping for straws.
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Davidsh331
284
Mar 4, 2019
BenjaboolyWho are you, THE advocate for MD? Don't feel sorry for MD, they get paid nicely for what they do. However, they are still not THE reason for each individual knife existing. Only the designers can take credit for that. It sounds as though you have made a study of the History of the MD Logo. I can proudly say that I have not, beyond some casual observations, which have revealed that some MD logos are large and some are small. They should all be consistently small.
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