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Music Hall MMF-2.2 Turntable

Music Hall MMF-2.2 Turntable

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It's on sale on Amazon for 299.99 wish they could beat this price
this drop would be a whole lot more successful if they would ship outside USA
sirockalot
Amen.
Is there an easy way to convert the output off the turntable into Coaxial SPDIF or Optical SPDIF so that you could run it into a DAC? Would like to use this with a headphone amp, but it only has single RCA inputs and those are currently attached to the DAC output.
M_at_o
So you want to do a conversion to digital, and then a conversion right back to analog? Naw man. There's a better way. Get a switch like the Phono-Preamps TC-716 or Niles AXP-1. Problem solved. Unless, I mean, you're really that strapped for space.
If I didn't already have the Debut Carbon I'd probably get this. The Debuts have notorious hum issues that you entirely avoid with this otherwise pretty similar product
Is it possible to purchase this from Canada? It's not letting me change country from United States.
HansyPants
Unfortunately, the vendor has restricted this drop to only US address. Sorry about that!
Danny_Liu
Sad face. I'll just keep scouring the used market. Thanks for the response.
Hi,
Cannot shipping outside USA??
Regards
Does this drop also have the upgraded cartridge?
How much is shipping to Canada?
Received mine yesterday and, like Hazel commented, the cartridge was installed already and the protective covering missing or had fallen off. Even worse, my cartridge was cracked. Waiting to hear back from MD...
Received mine yesterday. With a little setup, it works and sounds great! I did have some issues getting things set up, which I'll detail below:
Unpacking: "Nobody would be crazy enough to ship a turntable with the cartridge already mounted," I thought. I was wrong. The turntable arrives with the cartridge already mounted, and the protective cover fell off at some point during unpacking. If I'd realized this, I'd have been a LOT more careful when unpacking. Luckily nothing was damaged.
Cable: The cable is not quite long enough to reach my receiver - and being permanently attached, I cannot replace it with a longer one. I was forced to rig up an extension using another phono cable, some RCA couplers, and a nut+bolt to couple the ground wire. Major fail by Music Hall here.
Tonearm: The flat end of the tonearm where the cartridge mounts was bent upwards a little too much, causing the cartridge to drag its "heel" on the record in a couple places! I was able to bend it down slightly to resolve the issue. Not sure if this is a design flaw or a quality control issue.
Hey everyone,
We’re happy to report that all of the orders have been shipped out!
Thanks again for the support guys. Make sure to share your experience with the Music Hall MMF-2.2 Turntable on Massdrop.
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regrets for not jumping on this one, please bring back
Hey Guys,
The vendor is still preparing the groups order for shipment. Rest assured we will stay in contact with them and update the group with any new developments.
Thanks for your patience and expect an update from us on 8/15 or sooner if something comes up.
Hey everyone,
We’ve submitted our order for Music Hall MMF-2.2 Turntable shortly after the drop ended.
Now that the order has been placed, our vendor is preparing it for shipment. In the meantime, we will also be getting our warehouse ready to handle the reshipment of the product to everyone as soon as it arrives.
Expect an update on Monday or sooner if something comes up.
Cheers!
when is it being shipped? has anyone received any additional information?
Yes--see banner head.
Did this buy go through? I thought it was still open a few days ago.
This or Audio-Technica AT-LP120 with Shure M-97xE?
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It seems you've followed almost the same upgrade path; only you went with Music Hall instead of Pro-ject's 5.1. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the combo, too.
Kenneth
Yup. I was originally planning on getting the Pro-ject, however I was able to obtain the Music Hall at an amazing discount. So the choice was obvious, imo.
While "entry level" audiophile turntables have definitely become more upmarket over the years, I must say that the differences between a Shure M97xE cartridge equipped Audio Technica AT-LP60 ($197 total from Amazon Prime) and an MMF-2.2 or Debut III Carbon are negligible, at best. Hum is and will be an issue on any sub-$500 table, except for the Rega RP1, which easily is the best long-term purchase, but still a poor purchase, in the segment.
I did own, for a time, the Audio Technica and Shure combo; it easily matched, in every which manner, the Debut Carbon that I had purchased to replace it. I only found a meaningful upgrade with the Pro-ject RPM 5.1 SE that I was able to have bundled with the Blue Point Special Evo III for $1100; while I might admit that some might believe to hear a couple hundred dollars difference between a well-equipped consumer table and an entry level audiophile component, my under-26-year old ears sure as hell can't.
For reference, my current stereo setups (home theatre and living room both excluded) are as follows: Home stereo RPM 5.1SE with Blue Point Special Evo III and Lehman Audio Black Cube Pioneer VSX-52 (upgrade pending; don't worry) Monitor Audio RX8
Office stereo CEntrance HifiM8 HD800
Mobile stereo Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor Fiio X5
Hell I wanna get my hands on this but it doesnt offer WW shipping and even if it does it probably be very costly
$350 and not even a direct drive? Really?
SL1200 ftw woot woot.
JK, great beginner table.
This is the same company that makes the Pro-ject Debut III, which I own. Tone arm is the same, motor is the same. My Debut came with an Ortofon 5e, which sounds fine, but the 10 (which this seems to come with) is a step up.
I spent ~$250 on my Pro-ject used. This, new, with a better cart, probably not a bad deal.
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They are made in the same factory, they are very similar and most of the upgrades are interchangeable. The Pro-ject Debut Carbon ($399) has the carbon fiber tonearm which is far better than the MMF 2.2's and would usually have a better cartridge that allows you to upgrade it using the ortofon 2m blue stylus in ortofon 2m red body (stock cartridge).
Though with the MMF 2.2 with the upgraded cartridge (basically midway between the ortofon 2m red and 2m blue), adjustable VTA and feet, and potentially being $350 makes this a pretty nice deal.
The only other new table to consider in the <$500 would be the Rega RP1 ($446) since it's very upgradable but with the money you put into it you could have gotten a next level table. As well as some tables having platter wobbling issues, though the 2.2 and Debut Carbon have motor hum on some.
Razle
I have an RP1, and it does have some minor wobbling issues, but nothing that has ever caused me annoyances. Compared to other tables I have owned over the years it sounds far better and tracks anything without trouble. Can't compare it to this table or the Project tho I hear good things about them. The major diff in the Rega RP1 is the gimballed arm design vs a unipivot design. Recently a friend brought over one of the new Orbit tables. I was pretty impressed despite the budget cartridge and lack of features. That said I would say skip it and go for for one of the 3 ~350-400 dollar tables being discussed here.
Edit: actually unclear if these new Debuts/MMFs are unipivot or gimballed, I was going off old memories but looking at the arm and the product into I'm stumped.
any chance this buy will open for WW shipping?
If it gets to $350 it would be a solid buy with the Magic II (aka the Ortofon Super OM-10), although the tonearm is pretty meh.
I know nothing about turntables or cartridges, is this a solid setup that will last me a good while? Where should I go to educate myself more? Thanks.
ArtSJC
It is an excellent turntable but if you are looking for entry level equipment I would suggest buying a used turntable, your money will go farther.
I just got off the phone with the president of Music Hall. The cartridge in the picture is the Music Hall Magic II cartridge, which they put in units when they are out of Music Hall Tracker cartridges.
It is a much nicer cartridge than the Tracker, and retails for $50 more. Everyone on this drop will be getting the Music Hall Magic II cartridge, NOT the tracker. We'll change the specs to reflect this.
The cartridge in the picture was the one that came pre-installed on our sample unit. You guys are right in that it doesn't match the specs or Music Hall's website. We'll find out what the deal is. Stay tuned.
The Ortofon cartridge/stylus featured prominently in the photos does not seem to be the "Music Hall Tracker" cartridge mentioned in the description or specified on the Music Hall website What's the deal?