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Orion Hot-Dipped Harness Leather Belt

Orion Hot-Dipped Harness Leather Belt

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Well judging by the sizing comments below I'm skipping this drop. According to Orion's sizing instructions I'm size 36, I wear size 34 pants (so that matches Massdrop description), but according to the comments I should get a size 42 or something. How difficult is it to get the sizing for a belt right?
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DoriroD
I'll second dtremit's post just below that suggests using the sizing help info from Orion's website. It's pretty accurate. I purchased a size 36 on the last drop.  I'm in the process of losing some weight, so it's a bit longer than I currently want, so I've already bought a size 34 on this drop to replace it.  Hopefully these measurements below can help you decide if you need a size 36 belt or not. Here are the explicit measurements for THIS size 36 belt if it helps you.   You're welcome to buy mine if you want, I've had some interest from local friends already (the belt has never been used, not even once to try on using the buckle). Total length of the belt is 42" from where the buckle sits in the middle of the leather loop created with the screw fasteners to the end of the narrow tip.  From where the buckle sits in that belt loop to where the buckle prong sits in any belt hole adds another 1".  Again, measuring from where the buckle sits in the loop, the distances to the middle of the 5 holes for size 36 belt are: 1st hole:   33 5/8" 2nd hole:  34 5/8" 3rd hole:   35 9/16" 4th hold:   36 9/16" 5th hole:   37 1/2"
Again, remember to add the distance from the loop to where the buckle prong sits in the hole (1" for the included buckle).
I'm guessing the intended distances were all to 1/2"  (e.g. 33 5/8" is intended to be 33 1/2"), but I assume the processes the belts go through affect both the where the holes are created as well as the movement of the leather (e.g. shrinking/stretching). So if you've got a size 36" belt (or some other size of your favorite belt), comparing these measurements above to your belt should put you in the ballpark for comparing this Orion belt, I imagine. I'll also add that the distance from the 5th hole to the narrow tip of the belt end adds another 4 1/2", and that belt end consists of 3" at the 1 1/2" full belt width, narrowing down over the remaining 1 1/2" to the narrow tip.
Also for reference, I wear a size 32 in Levi's jeans (vanity sized to actual 34" waist).  Adding the 1" buckle to the measurements above, by eyeballing where this particular belt would sit on me, for this belt to fit me (not too tight/not too loose), I would likely end up using the 2nd hole in the measurements above using the included buckle, making the total distance 34 5/8" plus 1" for the buckle.....a grand total of 35 5/8" (pretty darn close that size 36 belt I ordered). So this belt is perfectly functional for me, if I wanted to use it on the 2nd hole, with the included buckle.  That also means I have a bit more belt than I'm used to showing BEYOND where the buckle ends to the very tip of the belt (a total of 7 1/2", made up o the 3" for holes 3/4/5, added to the 4 1/2" from hole 5 to the narrow tip end of the belt. The biggest reason I'm getting the new 34" belt are I'll likely be using western style buckles on this belt, and as those buckles are often 1 1/2 to 2" long (instead of the 1" included buckle), they will fasten in the 1st hole.  Again, that still works fine, unless I lose a bit more weight and then the belt will be too long for my needs.   Again, the minor quibble is personal, I don't like having that 7 1/2" extra length and holes showing past the buckle, just longer than I prefer (looking from the front, the excess length runs all the way around my side to hip).
Hope this info helps,
gulfbreeze
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Hey Massdrop -- would be nice to see the extended sizes that Orion offers included in a future drop. They are a very reasonable upcharge.
Orion's sizing instructions here are much more helpful than what Massdrop has provided:
https://www.orionleathercompany.com/help_options.asp?ID=32
got mine today, leather is thick and smells good. my size is 36 with most jeans, and i sized up to 38 in this belt which fits me pretty good. there are some dents but overall i am satisfied with this sub 50 belt. hope the hardware lasts.
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This is sad, I am a size 34-36 depending on the brand of jeans I wear, I ordered a size 40 to be safe, and guess what? IT DOESN'T FIT!
This is abhorrent, I paid $43.74 for this belt, I waited a month and a half, I waited patiently for it to be delivered, and I'm greeted with a belt that doesn't even reach around my entire waist to the buckle. Do better.
TuckerP
Have you measured the belt itself to confirm that it’s undersized? If you haven’t, it may be that your jeans just use drastic vanity sizing.
Shipping soon???
Don't listen to user recommendations. LISTEN TO THE MANUFACTURE! ONE SIZE UP FROM YOUR NORMAL IS BEST SIZE! DO NOT GO 2 SIZES UP LIKE OTHERS HAVE RECOMMENDED.
If I order the incorrect belt size, may I return the belt for a credit, refund, or exchange?
Anyone want to buy my new size 38 belt? This should be perfect if you are a 34 waist.
As many have said, this belt needs you to size up *2 sizes* (or 4 inches) with this thick beast of a belt.
I am going to need to reorder a larger size on this one unless Orion will exchange (mine is unworn).
Anybody know if these can go through a metal detector without setting it off? I have to pass through one 3 times a week for work and I'm always looking for belts that I can leave on and not worry.
thelawsmithy
I imagine you'd need one with plastic
Ok - I ordered the belt, and I'm excited to see it! Anybody know if Orion makes belts without buckle tongue/prong holes? The belt looks gorgeous, but I'm most likely going to take off the buckle immediately and put on one of my own, and several of my buckles don't need the hole, and some of them will expose that hole, so they don't really work with this belt.
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That's correct. All the Massdrop belts are just as listed, no modifications, I'm afraid. They are still made to order, it's just that we receive the bulk order from Massdrop, and the way shipping and fulfillment is handled really doesn't allow for any more modifications than specified in the drop.
OrionLeatherCo
No problem. I'll use this one to make sure all sizing etc. is solid for when I contact you about the next one. Thanks again!
My jeans say size 32. I ordered size 34. Need to buckle it at the very last hole. Should have gotten the 36.
Mine is too small also. Is there a way to exchange? This is a beautful belt!
Mine arrived today. It is beautiful...but unfortunately quite a bit small. Hoping support can help - i’d love to exchange for a size up. It really is a beautiful belt.
I bought 2 orion belts on a drop in 2015. One was excellent. The other was terrible and had a massive defect through the leather. There's no way they missed this, they let it go out the door this way. Never again.
UncleMusket
We're sorry to hear you aren't happy with your belt. Please, keep in mind that we are all people working on your belts, and sometimes we can make mistakes. We have a 100 year warranty on our items, which absolutely covers manufacturing defects. That warranty includes belts purchase through Massdrop. If you would like to contact us directly, and provide pictures of what the problem is with your belt, we can address the issue. Here is our email: info@orionleathercompany.com.
This is a great belt! It's my daily work wear belt with a "Colorado" buckle I picked up off eBay. It is going to take a while to fully break in, but I don't feel any stiffness. It'll definitely be a long wearing belt.
Taking a second look at this belt, it may be thicker than 9/10 weight leather and it isn't skivved down at the buckle which is why it kind of bulges a little as seen on the model wearing one. That's a pretty thick fold of leather around the buckle. It'll also cause the belt to draw a little snugger. Belts this thick may require a little breaking in to become most comfortable.
By "hot dipped," I'm going to assume they mean "oil tanned" which isn't uncommon for good quality belts and this one is for that price. Still, I'd prefer that the edges were slightly beveled to resist pinching, rolling and folding. But, otherwise, it looks to be about 9/10 weight leather which means it'll last a very long time. Probably drum dyed too which is the most thorought way to do it front and back and the backside is a sueded finish so it won't sliding around. That type of oil finish is also easy care. You can rub out scuffs or scars easily and condition the leather to restore color depth.
The mid brown shade and the choice of brass or nickel finishes for the buckle are great. But I would love to see a drop for this style of belt in a slightly smaller width. The 1.5 in (38mm) size coupled with the very rugged finish make this a decidedly casual belt. But in a 32mm or 35mm width it would be much more versatile.
Qswiss
You're entitled to your opinion, but mine is that the leather makes it too casual already. The width isn't going to change the formality of this belt.
Just received in Singapore today (13.2.2018), perfect timing just before the Lunar New Year. This is the thickest leather belt i've owned. It feels waxy and has a pull up effect on the holes that i'm using. I'm size 32 and got the 34, the length is perfect as i prefer my belt to fit just right. Because the leather is so thick some how it feels short, however after comparing with other belts i'm using, lengths are very similar. The buckle feels solid and nicely screwed on tight. This has to be the best leather quality i've ever seen in a belt. Overall very happy with my purchase, can't wait to see how it turns out seasoned. Once again thank you very much Massdrop :)
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This might be the best belt I have ever seen... It is absolutely gorgeous, and finished perfectly :) I missed the part about buying one size bigger than required... SO, I am on the last hole, but luckily the lose end is long enough to still work nicely. I imagine it will stretch a bit, but its a thick and full grain leather, so not a ton. So happy with this drop...Thanks guys!
Be aware that the finish on this belt is not consistent. It is apparently "supposed to look cracked" and will change each time you wear it. If you are fine with a 'striped/cracked' looking leather finish to a belt then proceed with your order. But if you are expecting a belt with a finished look this is not it and Massdrop will not refund your money. Lesson learned the hard way.
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scdda
And just how from the pictures could you not tell that the finish was varied???
treeinc
Not just that, but that kind of effect is the whole point of getting a pull-up leather like latigo.
Received mine last night. Measured exactly as they recommended here and on their website. The measurement I got was 36" to middle hole, so that's what I ordered. This thing is at least 2" too small. OK for me because I can pass it along to my son that it fits, but next time I'd recommend using their measurements and adding at least an additional 2", if not 4".
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DrFranco
I ordered one size up (waist 28, ordered 30) and initially the belt barely fit on the last hole as well. However, when I measured the belt end (not buckle) to middle hole, it was exactly the same length as the one by the british belt co. I'm guessing the combination of shorter buckle and thicker/stiffer leather is causing this to wear shorter than its size, even compared to other belts.
I can sell you my 38 belt at cost. Same issue for me.
If I wear size 31 wide should I get 32 or 34?
Thekenya
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Thekenya
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I picked this belt up on an earlier drop (a year or so ago) and just wanted to comment that it is great. Very well built, beautiful and I get compliments on it. The leather itself is thicker than I was expecting and makes the belt feel very sturdy and high quality.
Hope this helps for anyone on the fence.
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I haven't put anything heavy on it personally, but it is pretty thick and stiff so I think you would be okay. One thing to consider with this particular belt is that where it flexes regularly it actually changes visually, so it develops a unique wear pattern.
If you put something heavy on it you may get a cluster of this coloration or at least I think it is likely that it would appear uneven if you wanted to wear it without the item covering it in the future.
nextmat
Re the wear pattern, you can see it in the picture, the tiger-striping in the rolled part.
OK, so I still wear boys sizes (make fun of me later) so my waist is a 28 or size 14 in boys. Based on the manufacturer's recommendation I should get a size 30?
Also relevant as this would be my first time buying some clothing on Massdrop, what is the exchange policy?
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tinyman392
FWIW, I'm a size 28/29 as well and measuring my current belt shows its ~30.5 to the hole I use most, so it should fit.
ecao
Thanks. I measured my belt to be 28.5-29, do I went with a 28.
Two questions:
First, does the thickness (not the width) taper towards the buckle, or is the leather at the buckle as thick as the rest of the belt?
Second, how does the manufacturer measure the length (e.g., outer end of buckle to middle hole, or attachment point of leather to tightest hole, or to tip of the belt...)? A sketch would be appreciated because it makes it easy to understand.
nameless
These are a full grain belt, they are the same thickness the entire length, belts are traditionally sized from the fold where the buckle attaches (not the end of the belt buckle) to the middle hole.
Schuyler
This from a professional belt maker;
To answer your measuring question; this gets a lot of people, but by measuring from the end of the buckle, you are actually accounting for any difference in buckle length. If you ignore the buckle, then the difference becomes an issue. You see, the tension is held at the end of the buckle prong, not where the leather meets the buckle. So if your buckle measured 3”, and mine is 1”, then that’s a whole 2” that would be skewed by not measuring from the end of the buckle. Hope that makes sense! I’ve put a lot of thought into this and other makers who measure without the buckle are doing it wrong.
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